The Great Global Warming Swindle

Vince

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I've just watched a broadcast of a TV documentary that uncovers the scientific truth about global warming. It has nothing to do with the use of fossil fuels by humans! If this show is broadcast on your TV channels it is worth watching. I have believed the conventional global warming theory for 30-years, until tonight.

The link to more info is in my sig.
 
Rev Den said:
The good Dr and I agree on something?

I feel dirty.

Rev
LOL...I think Global warming is a product of all the wasted Land Rovers in the junkyards. :D

Sorry Rev...had to do it. I bet Vince agrees with me though.
 
"Global warming" is just the catchphrase applied to the cyclic climatic changes in the Earth - I think the cycle runs about every 5,000 years or so, with major swings every few cycles (like the Ice Age.)

I think we're currently on a warming trend anyhow (I'd have to check my data,) and we're probably due for a "swing" - since the last was the last Ice Age some 30,000 years ago. So, a "hot swing" is probably likely and due.

Do we, with our industry and actions, enhance the cycle? Possibly. Did we cause the cycle? Certainly not! Our era of industrialisation simply coincided with an uptick in mean global temperatures, leading people to believe (those who don't back away and look at the whole picture...) that we're the cause.

We are not.

This doesn't mean that we can't be doing things to help reduce the swing that we may very well be headed for, but we're still going to see an increase in mean global temperatures, and we'll eventually see the decrease, once we crest the rise and the pendulum swings the other way.

Hoestly, I think people raising all the hue and cry about Global Warming and simply people who take the human race entirely too seriously. Earth has been around for about four billion years, we've been here for the last 200,000 in a form recognisable as hominids, and about 15,000 in our current form. That's about one quarter second in a year, folks - geologically speaking, we haven't been around long enough to cause any serious trouble!
 
The rotting Range Rovers have probably consumed a reasonable amount of oxygen making rust. But the Series trucks and the Defender usually last a long time with their aluminum bodies.

I read somewhere that there were more XJ's produced than all of the Land Rovers put together. I've never bothered to verify it myself, but my local Land Rover friends believe it!
 
I think it is telling that one of the major FRENCH scientists that was of the 1500 scientist consensus, has recanted and now believes the SUN is responsible for most of the current warming. Is it just a coincidence that MARS is warming too? Or did I miss the mass of SUVs on Mars?

I've never said there ISN'T Global Warming. But I have questioned MAN'S involvement. Throughout the history of this fair planet, it has been considerably warmer for most of it. Man is concerned with our COMFORT. The Earth will spit us off this dustball long before we ever can ever destroy it.

On the flip side, we do need to be good custodians of the Earth too.
 
5-90 said:
"Global warming" is just the catchphrase applied to the cyclic climatic changes in the Earth - I think the cycle runs about every 5,000 years or so, with major swings every few cycles (like the Ice Age.)
I think technically we are still in the tail end of the last ice age as the prehistoric periods that were not ice ages did not have polar ice caps.
 
Vince said:
I think technically we are still in the tail end of the last ice age as the prehistoric periods that were not ice ages did not have polar ice caps.

Thank you. I know I need to check my data - but I'm not sure where to get data that isn't put out by someone with some ax to grind...

"Given sufficient information, a Board of Inquiry can prove anything."
 
Natural process of the earth. Mankind is destroying the planet...nope...the planet is destroying mankind, I'll just sit back and sweat.
 
Penn & Teller had an episode on it in their series "Bullshit".

The book "State of Fear" is about global warming and the political agendas behind it, although fiction it does make some interesting points.
 
5-90 said:
...but I'm not sure where to get data that isn't put out by someone with some ax to grind...
Amen. So damn sick of all the propaganda...not to mention how many sheeple take it for the truth without thinking twice about it.
 
Hey it has to be true cause Al Gore made a movie about it.
 
JohnX said:
Amen. So damn sick of all the propaganda...not to mention how many sheeple take it for the truth without thinking twice about it.

Yeah. All I really want is the raw data - I'm perfectly capable of drawing my own conclusions. Even if they don't dovetail neatly with everyone else's.

"There's this real moronic thing I do - it's called thinking."
 
Prepmech said:
Penn & Teller had an episode on it in their series "Bullshit".

The book "State of Fear" is about global warming and the political agendas behind it, although fiction it does make some interesting points.
It is a work of fiction, however its chock full of real data from around the globe basically debunking global warming. Also, its a damn good book.:eeks1:
 
Wait a minute! Someone actually let Al Gore make a movie? When? And how much money was wasted "in the balance" of making it?
 
you guys really think the industrial revolution has no ill effects upon the planet? Seriously??? That thick black smoke that's been pouring out of every industrialized nation for over a hundred years has nothing to do with pollution or a warming trend? I think you fellas should go back over the data..........especially looking at co2 rises, what other phenomenon do you think would cause rises in co2?

And even if one didn't believe burning fossil fuels would lead to environmental pollution, wouldn't you still want to see some progress towards cleaner energy just to have cleaner air to breath?

Unless i had stock in Exxon/Mobil, or was a paid spokesperson for the industry (such as the president), i would have a real hard time protesting cleaner air.
 
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