The Final Straw on Climate Change Lies???

JNickel101 said:
Simple end to the argument here:

Global Warming/Climate Change = wrong. In every way. The global climate WILL CHANGE both ways whether we want it to or not, NO MATTER WHAT WE DO. See: giant nuclear reactor 93 million miles away. Face it, you can't stop global climate change in either direction. End the dumbass debates now.

What we can do:

Limit our pollution. You will never prove that "greenhouse gasses" affect global climate, one way or the other. What we CAN prove is that we deserve to have cleaner air to breathe, water to use and land to live on. Quit drumming up "schemes" to try and make money off of having a cleaner, more responsible society. There's nothing wrong with encouraging clean energy, but quit trying to trick/fool/guilt society into thinking it is because of "global climate change" - make it about everything being clean - for our generation and the next generations.

For the love of God, quit your bickering back and forth - you'll never convince Rod or Urban that global warming ISN'T real, and you'll never convince people with plain common sense that it is. ;)

But we can agree on a cleaner living environment all around....
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Awesome job Nickel, couldn't agree more. I am a big believer in being a good stewards of our planet. Clean air, clean water, tread lightly etc. The problem I have is being forced into it. As I mentioned earlier, the old incandescent light bulb argument. I have compact fluorescent bulbs in my home, but that was my CHOICE. Great way to put it Nickel, common sense is the bottom line.
 
urban yan said:
Explain?


Nevermind, I don't want you popping a blood vessel in your noodle-noggin, so I'll elaborate instead:
For arguments sake let's just say that global warming isn't our fault, but rather a naturally occurring phenomena. It still doesn't change the fact that we have a problem on our hands from: flooding, shoreline erosion, displaced populations, droughts, failed crops, power grid disruptions, etc. All those issues have a serious impact on our way-of-life; therefore, they impact our security. It doesn't matter whether I die from a terrorist attack or a flood. Dead is dead.

I liken global warming to swimming in a public pool. Even if you're not the guy who pissed in the pool, you still have the problem of being in stuck in a pool full of piss. Now, you might have a fetish for golden showers, but most us would recognize there's a problem, and request they break out the chlorine.
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Maybe lightning strikes are a threat to national security also? How many die every year from that? Oh, and not to mention smoking, dead is dead, remember.
 
JNickel101 said:
For the love of God, quit your bickering back and forth - you'll never convince Rod or Urban that global warming ISN'T real, and you'll never convince people with plain common sense that it is. ;)
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Common sense would also dictate you shouldn't put words in my mouth. I'm open to both sides of this debate; my posts prove it.


tkjeeper said:
Maybe lightning strikes are a threat to national security also? How many die every year from that? Oh, and not to mention smoking, dead is dead, remember.
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We have no control over lightning. If we did, I'd have a few bolts sent your general direction - a terawatt or two might restart your noggin. RE Smoking: We know the effects of smoking, we also have control over it. That's why we passed laws to limit smoking in public places. I'm sorry if that notion affects the freedoms you served so dearly to protect. Although, quite frankly, I don't know of a single country that went to war over smokes.


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urban yan said:
Common sense would also dictate you shouldn't put words in my mouth. I'm open to both sides of this debate; my posts prove it.



We have no control over lightning. If we did, I'd have a few bolts sent your general direction - a terawatt or two might restart your noggin. RE Smoking: We know the effects of smoking, we also have control over it. That's why we passed laws to limit smoking in public places. I'm sorry if that notion affects the freedoms you served so dearly to protect. Although, quite frankly, I don't know of a single country that went to war over smokes.


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Urban, I love ya, we have as much control over global warming, oops, climate change, as we do over lightning. And the fact that you support limiting smoking in public places is typical to your legislative attitude. Near my town they also ban plastic water bottles. I suppose you would love that also? Where do personal freedoms come into play? I'm a non smoker, and hate being around smokers, but I'd rather deal with a little smoke than belong to a municipality that bans them! At any rate, the lightning is George W's fault, I'm sure.
 
DrMoab said:
We have no control over global warming either.
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Prove it.


tkjeeper said:
Urban, I love ya, we have as much control over global warming, oops, climate change, as we do over lightning. And the fact that you support limiting smoking in public places is typical to your legislative attitude. Near my town they also ban plastic water bottles. I suppose you would love that also? Where do personal freedoms come into play? I'm a non smoker, and hate being around smokers, but I'd rather deal with a little smoke than belong to a municipality that bans them! At any rate, the lightning is George W's fault, I'm sure.
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And I love you to the fullest extent a man can love a small, troll-like creature.
 
Ok Urban, I'll prove we have no control over global warming if you can prove we cant control lightning.

And I love you like a mentally challenged red headed step child.
 
urban yan said:
Common sense would also dictate you shouldn't put words in my mouth. I'm open to both sides of this debate; my posts prove it.
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Debating with you is like playing tennis against a brick wall - unless you're Chuck Norris - you'll never win. You have an answer for everything. You must be one of the 5 smartest people in the world. party1: :rolleyes:

I have better things to do than go re-read your posts - but I'm pretty sure you've been arguing FOR global warming as being something that exists as a man-made action - hard to say though since you claim you "go both ways" :D

As for proving we have no control over global warming (or cooling) - really? So....all the times in the past 4+ billion years of planet Earth's existance where it's either been covered with ice, or had no ice caps at all isn't proof enough?

I really thought my post might cool this debate off :dunno: it's not about warming or cooling or CLIMATE at all...it's about pollution and conserving our environment. Trees grow back....oil wells fill back up (yes, been proven) - will they both last forever? Not if we keep letting the world population get out of control....
 
Let me guess, one involves a vast right wing conspiracy...

:D

Really though....did every single "prehistoric creature" die at the exact same time? Hmmm...
 
JNickel101 said:
Let me guess, one involves a vast right wing conspiracy...

:D

Really though....did every single "prehistoric creature" die at the exact same time? Hmmm...
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It's Bush's fault.

He went back in time using the time machine squirreld away in Area 52. Killed off the dinosuars so that we would have oil and he and daddy would get rich. Trouble is he didn't have a compass and ploaced the oil in the wrong spot.
 
I wonder if the flying ones made better bacon....oh and we could have had swine wings to go with our buffalo wings....
 
buffalo wings that taste like bacon...

I think this is a topic that needs no debate, just a rating of awesome.


I told you guys to watch out for those Air Force Kids btw.
 
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