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I need to fix my HEATER..So how was working on your jeeps instead of using them?

Snow level is down to 2500' tonite..MORE SNOW TONE..Tone this is the white stuff we play in, not put in ..OH you know where..LOL..
 
Tone, i tested my lockers on that first hill we had trouble with... Crawled up it this time like the jeep had claws. Didn't even spin a tire once.
 
Yeah and He can use My ratchet strap to pull Him out...I'm not using it.
 
lol... I will try to remember to bring it to you tomorrow.

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I am Pleased that I can be a source of amusement for You. But I had to chase You down for the $50.00, now it's My strap. If I could afford to eat the cost, I'd tell You to stick it up Your Anal Orpheus. I should NOT have to ask...Twice. You were stuck, No One had anything to use but Me. I knew the strap would get damaged by the acid, but I did it anyway. Fuching Stupid Me, Don't expect My help again.
 
Dude, chill out..Hell next time you come by i'll give you 2 straps ok..I have the small ones and some big ones..Hell i'll even weld in some hooks..



Wait a min...I lost a couple of straps last year, loan them out to somebody..I'll think of there names an get back to you..But i still have a couple for you paul..
 
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He got his pepe stuck in the door...LOL..
Now thats funny, i don't care what you say..


Boys you don't want me to pull out the TUTU man to kick your butt's..You know i will guys, havent been out in a long time, he is ready to kick some but now..
 
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You know he wants you..
 

If I borrowed something of Yours, You'd expect it back...In a timely manner. You wouldn't want to chase Me down for it. You can't understand that? I guess that's My point, if You did I wouldn't be typing this. I tried to help You right off, and it's been nothing but trouble for Me ever since. Up side down front brakes, and You give Me grief on NAXJA, and in MY own Garage. I have to chase You down for My $50.00, "Oh I forgot" was Your response. Now that I am trying to get My strap back "lol... I will try to remember to bring it to you tomorrow."

I wouldn't come by here, give it to Tone or someone. I'm done with You.
 
I didn't give you any grief here or in your garage about the brakes... you didn't have to chase me down for the $50, you just had to ask... And like I said before,i bought you a brand new strap,i just haven't given it to you. again you could have just asked for it and I would have had it to you immediately.

Not sure what your problem its with me, but I've sensed an animosity since the beginning.
 
I didn't give you any grief here or in your garage about the brakes... you didn't have to chase me down for the $50, you just had to ask... And like I said before,i bought you a brand new strap,i just haven't given it to you. again you could have just asked for it and I would have had it to you immediately.

Not sure what your problem its with me, but I've sensed an animosity since the beginning.

In My garage, I am trying to explain to You that there is another problem, that I have bled the brakes over and over and can't get a peddle. I said to You that We just did the same thing to My jeep and took the ones off I sold You. Put on My new ones and did a simple bleeding of the brakes, and My peddle is better than before. You look at Me and said "Everybody gets lucky sometime" Fuch You! You and Your up side down brakes that were the whole Fuching problem in the first place. And You were a Mouthy fuch on the help thread Tone started here.

You knew You owed Me money, I should not have to ask, and instead You went out and bought more parts and then asked for help to put them on.

I shouldn't have to ask You for My Fuching strap back, You should have had it back to Me at Your earliest convenience, like anyone else with common courtesy But did You bother...NO.

Not sure what your problem its with me, but I've sensed an animosity since the beginning.

This one just kills Me.

Who came to Your house and installed Your injectors, removed Your rear sway bar, found Your noises underneath Your Jeep, Me & Tone. Being under Your Jeep Tone and I noticed Your brake lines were so tight from the jeep being lifted, I gave You a Good deal on those lines, invited You to MY HOUSE and installed them for free. I didn't have a problem with You until the "Everybody gets lucky sometime" comment.

Fuch You!
 
Tone, the idle thing. I read about quite a few people with the same symptoms, but the solution was varied. Air fuel idle solenoid, O2 sensor, and the one I'd like to pursue first since it will only cost You a can of carb cleaner, is a dirty throttle plate. I need to fix My VO meter so I can check the values on the O2 and solenoid, I'm sure we can find the ohm range on line. But a can of cleaner and the air compressor should take care of the plate pretty cheap. And We'll go from there.
 
Some info on the SUA You asked about.


Springs
Under: With the springs swooping under the axle they generally need more arch to achieve lift and can actually stiffen the ride and hinder the flex. Yet one of the great positives about this setup is that your center of gravity remains lower and often offers a more stable feel on off-camber obstacles.

Over: Since you are gaining lift by moving the perches on top of the axletube, a flatter or softer spring pack can be used to gain articulation and create a more cushioned ride. This also opens you up to more spring options, and for the budget-minded, this means taking a trip down to your local junkyard and trying out different spring combos.



Shackles
Under: A small shackle lift of 1 to 2 inches is an inexpensive way to get your Jeep a little height without stiffening the ride or hindering the flex, but don't overdo it. An overly long shackle can create clearance, handling, and stress issues that are not worth the lift.

Over: Depending on whether you keep the shackles in the front of the Jeep or perform a shackle reversal, longer shackles are not really necessary. On the front axle, swapping the shackles to the rear will help your rig's forward movement over obstacles, but will cause your driveshaft to extend farther during articulation. A basic spring-over conversion does not require you to reverse the shackles, though many wheelers opt to.



Axlewrap
Under: Without a doubt the strongest argument for keeping the springs under the axle is the limited axlewrap that's received compared to a spring-over. It's all about torque forces. While you may not have the ground clearance that a spring-over has, your axle will be held more firmly in place and able to deal with the loading forces more easily.

Over: Almost every SOA configuration has axlewrap. How much axlewrap depends on the softness and arch of the spring. Lift blocks will amplify wrap, and we must suggest that if you are planning a spring-over, pencil in some sort of wrap device. Don't worry if you are fab-challenged, as many aftermarket antiwrap bars are available.



Fabrication
Under: Basically little to no fabrication is needed, as most aftermarket kits are designed as bolt-on units.

Over: Depending on your skill level you can have a couple options. The first would be creating your own homebrewed spring-over kit. This is completely fine as long as you feel confident in your welding and fab skills. Another option would be ordering a do-it-yourself kit from one of the many aftermarket manufacturers. While most require some mechanical talent, they can be done in your driveway with basic tools and a welder. Some are even bolt-on.



Driveline
Under: Depending on lift height (usually limited to 4 1/2 inches) and transfer-case model, you can get away with running a transfer-case drop. In later models a new driveshaft and/or slip yoke eliminator may be required.

Over: Since the spring-over usually creates close to 5 inches of lift with stock springs, new driveshafts and/or a slip-yoke eliminator are generally needed.



Clearance
Under: Many of the SUAs have the U-bolts facing the ground, and since that means the spring plates are on the bottom of the axle, components are subject to increased off-road damage. The upside is that quite a few aftermarket companies make U-bolt flip kits that can take care of the down-facing hoops.

Over: Getting the springs on top means flipping the U-bolts to face up. This gives your axle more clearance for the suspension components and other undercarriage vitals.



And There's More...
Here we've touched on just a few of the larger pieces that you'll need to consider when deciding for or against performing a spring-over conversion. There are always those basic elements that will need attention as well: brake lines, steering linkage, track bars, and sway bars, to name a few. If you are thinking about purchasing a kit, whether it be your basic spring-under lift or a fully weld-on SOA, calling the manufacturer and asking questions to make sure it comes with everything you need is always a sound decision.
 
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