Scott McClellan's new book on his tenure at the White House.

[DrMoab]

Nominated!!!

You would rather have a oil mongering liar rather than the man who recently won the nobel peace prize?

And by the way, Bush knew there were no WMD's, we knew there were no WMD's. The whole war was about Oil. Irag being one of the largest oil producing nations, and the Bush Dynasty being one of the biggest oil families in the US. Not to mention that Bush only won the election by cheating, which happened in the same state that is brother was governer. Did you know that the net worth of his daddy went up about about 60 billion withing one year of declaring war? Meanwhile Bush took our budget which was in the black for the first time if probably 30+ years, and put us in the biggest deficit in our history. In case you don't know what that means, it means he sold the our county to china. I don't need any more reasons to hate bush. I have plenty. As for the writer of the book. He is just a punk trying to get his 15 minutes of fame.

 

[JNickel101]

Agreed...

 

[ehall]

And how is that risk posed by Iraq greater than that posed by ...

I already answered that--Iraq is the only one that has a demonstrated willingness to use WMD. Could you pay attention instead of running down your talking point sheets?

 

[TRNDRVR]

Damn! Page 5.

Carry on!

 

[ZomBrady]

I already answered that---

So my family is just another talking point? I don't believe you have answered the question of whether or not those 'resolutions' were justified. Saddam's willingness? Seriously, tow that party line.

 

[Mudderoy]

Anyone else see Scott McClellan's interview on Good Morning America this morning?

He spoke fondly of President Bush. He said President Bush is smart enough to be president. He said Bush made decisions "from the hip".

Basically he thinks there were some bad decisions in retrospect. DAH! Everyone makes mistakes, but you do the best at the time.

I have NOT read the book, but I'd say that this guy got a book deal that is burning a bunch of bridges. He'll need to make as much money as he can because he won't be doing PR for anyone else.

The Lefties are trying to make a big deal of of this because of their hatred of President Bush. I'm sure they'll be able to skew it that way in their own minds, but I see this as a sad attempt of a friend of President Bush to make a little scratch. Really sad.

 

[Mudderoy]

You would rather have a oil mongering liar rather than the man who recently won the nobel peace prize?

Nobel prize? Do you mean Gore?!?!?! I bet he got it for inventing the Internet.

Hey does anyone else think Super Dave Osborne and Al Gore are the same person?

 

[fscrig75]

Don't forget good old Al's house creates more carbon then some small towns. But he is good, he bought carbon credits. Now he can run his heated driveway, heated indoor swimming pool and ride around in his big wastefull limo and private jet.

 

[Mudderoy]

Don't forget good old Al's house creates more carbon then some small towns. But he is good, he bought carbon credits. Now he can run his heated driveway, heated indoor swimming pool and ride around in his big wastefull limo and private jet.

Oooo I bet his nobel prize is heated tooo. No more chills when he is hugging it.

 

[Boatwrench]

I already answered that--Iraq is the only one that has a demonstrated willingness to use WMD. Could you pay attention instead of running down your talking point sheets?

Wrong---The US has also demonstrated the willingness to use WMD, just ask Japan.

BTW Let's be clear about this, we went to war in Iraq for one reason: "They tried to kill my dad!" -G.W.Bush.

On the original question, the book is written by a small man with penis envy attempting to get a piece of history.

 

[JNickel101]

BTW Let's be clear about this, we went to war in Iraq for one reason: "They tried to kill my dad!" -G.W.Bush.

Funny enough, saying that makes more sense than saying we went there b/c of OIL.

:roflmao:

 

[Mudderoy]

Funny enough, saying that makes more sense than saying we went there b/c of OIL.

:roflmao:

I know, that is how I thought that sentence would end. atriot:

 

[ehall]

BTW Let's be clear about this, we went to war in Iraq for one reason: "They tried to kill my dad!" -G.W.Bush.

Well it certainly was one of the reasons

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;

 

[sleeperjeeper]

As one of my favorite comedian's, Bill Hicks, put it.

"How do you know Iraq has weapon's of mass destruction?"

"because we looked at the receipt."

 

[Darky]

We used the A-Bombs over 60 yrs ago now while at war, to end the war. We also probably didn't have a complete grasp as to the effect they'd have on people years down the road. Remember, we had people watching the tests from within ranges and distances that we now know were way too close to be safe. We also rebuilt Japan afterwards. Saddam himself authorized the usage of Mustard gas and Sarin gas on his own people within the last 20 yrs, because they were the wrong ethnic background. I have no doubt that had he had an opportunity, he would've sent some "presents" our way.

 

[Mudderoy]

We used the A-Bombs over 60 yrs ago now while at war, to end the war. We also probably didn't have a complete grasp as to the effect they'd have on people years down the road. Remember, we had people watching the tests from within ranges and distances that we now know were way too close to be safe. We also rebuilt Japan afterwards. Saddam himself authorized the usage of Mustard gas and Sarin gas on his own people within the last 20 yrs, because they were the wrong ethnic background. I have no doubt that had he had an opportunity, he would've sent some "presents" our way.

Whether you are left, right, or in the middle, you have to admit that this has shown the world that the US will retaliate, and will see the fight through. GW Bush didn't do what those that attacked us expected, just take the safe political route. Talk big, do nothing...

The world is safer, at the moment.

 

[Ecomike]

You would rather have a oil mongering liar rather than the man who recently won the nobel peace prize?

And by the way, Bush knew there were no WMD's, we knew there were no WMD's. The whole war was about Oil. Irag being one of the largest oil producing nations, and the Bush Dynasty being one of the biggest oil families in the US. Not to mention that Bush only won the election by cheating, which happened in the same state that is brother was governer. Did you know that the net worth of his daddy went up about about 60 billion withing one year of declaring war? Meanwhile Bush took our budget which was in the black for the first time if probably 30+ years, and put us in the biggest deficit in our history. In case you don't know what that means, it means he sold the our county to china. I don't need any more reasons to hate bush. I have plenty. As for the writer of the book. He is just a punk trying to get his 15 minutes of fame.

X2 X2 X2!!!!!

Wow, I was starting to think I had wandered into the twilight zone here, finaly someone that can see and type the truth!!!! And to think that I once was a loyal Texican Republican back in his fathers days! At least his father new what the hell he was doing overseas, and knew his limitations, I can't help but wonder if GWB wasn't the milk mans fault!

 

[Ecomike]

Oh Noes!!!

So the president wanted to go to war "to transform the Middle East to ensure an enduring peace in the region"? Heinous! The bastard!! Come on folks...is this the best you can do in your attempts to come out with new reasons to justify your hatred of Bush? Is it such a bad thing to want to see peace brought into the Middle East?
As far as the blogger's comment on not having WMDs, the rest of the western world for the most part believed they were there. The Democrats believed it along with the Republicans. They knew it before Bush was ever in office. Bill Clinton knew it. His wife said it as well. If you want to use that, you'll have to indict more than just George W Bush.
I'm not trying to write this new book off as just liberal rhetoric or anything, I mean we don't even know what it said except for a couple excerpts taken by the blogger to prove his point.

I was never fooled. I was astounded at the cowardice everyone displayed including the news media when Bush was working on declaring war on Saddam. Personally I think everyone was scared by the Patriot Act, a very popular president, american hawkish sentiment and was afraid to stand up and say this BS. Obama was one of the few with enough guts to stand up and say this is BS. Bush Senior also told his son to stay out of Iraq, but as most kids do, they never listen to their parents, and they learn the hard way instead.

The only WMDs Saddam ever had were the ones Bush senior (and Reagan) sold him during and before the Iran-Iraq War in the 80s to use on the Iranians! No wonder the Iranians hate us. Our own CIA created Saddam to keep Iran and Syria in check. He was our allie until he invaded Kuwait.

 

[Mudderoy]

I was astounded at the cowardice everyone displayed including the news media when Bush was working on declaring war on Saddam.

What would you call the "cut and run" attitude of the liberals and democrats?

BTW guys no hard feelings, I'm glad we can all speak our minds here. We just see things differently.

BTW, I predict McCain will win. Middle America is not going to want a young, inexperienced person, with a Islamic name fighting the war on terror. It just won't happen. Hilary losing this race is the best thing that can happen for her run for the whitehouse. We'll never hear from Obama again, presidential race wise.

Not to worry, though, McCain is a Democrat in Republican clothing. :looney:

 

[Ecomike]

What would you call the "cut and run" attitude of the liberals and democrats?

A return to sanity?

Frankly I think we should let Bush run things for 4 more years. :roflmao:

Bush has already bankrupted the US treasury trying to win a war that he declared as mission accomplished just weeks after it started, sold the USA to the Chinese (they own more US treasury notes now than we do!), Bankrupted US goodwill overseas, created the Housing bubble that is crashing the US economy right now, helped big oil boost the price of world crude up from $10 to nearly $130 a barrel with his disasterous policies, helped push gas and diesel prices up by 400%, and Natural gas prices up by as much as 1,600 % (peak about 18 months ago, and its on the rise again).

I fact he has screwed things up so well, I doubt he could do much more damage in another 4 years. :laugh2:

BTW guys no hard feelings, I'm glad we can all speak our minds here. We just see things differently.

BTW, I predict McCain will win. Middle America is not going to want a young, inexperienced person, with a Islamic name fighting the war on terror. It just won't happen. Hilary losing this race is the best thing that can happen for her run for the whitehouse. We'll never hear from Obama again, presidential race wise.

Not to worry, though, McCain is a Democrat in Republican clothing. :looney:

I don't know who is going to win, but if a Hillary/Obama combo ticket gets selected, I suspect Mccain will be lucky to get 1/3 of the (un)popular vote. Their are just too many pissed of americans that had enough of the Republicans for a while.

Back to the cut and run comment, from what I have seen and heard and read (including all the double talk), none of the three remaining candidates is currently saying they will cut and run if elected. What they differ on is whether or not we should have gotten mixed up in it in the first place and whether or not we should plan on staying there forever.

Personally I think we should go back to the way Reagan handled it. He sold the Iraq and Iranian leaders weapons (including WMDs) for oil, kept us out of the mess, and kept the arabs busy killing each other, like they have been doing for the last 1000 years.