questions about building a jeep speed

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im considering building a jeepspeed rode in my buddys and ive become addicted to speed in the desert and a smooth ride. what aqll goes into taking a stocker and turning it into a jeep speed
obviously a lift but do most run a four linked rear or coilovers or can u run springs
most people run 4 wheel or two wheel
and what does everyone run for a typical lift and tire size
i know u have to trus the front and rear axle
will stock axles handle alll the strain or do u need a alloy or chromoly shafts ?
 
deceide if you want to actually race.

if yes, youve got to build a JEEPSPEED jeepspeed, go checkout the rulebook, then look around, theres a bunch of build ups on the interweb.

if not, you can do whatever you want.... and build it a little slower. if you want a true racer, it's gotta go into the garage for a significant while, with a significant price.

you say your buddy has a jeepspeed, did you not ask him anything after the ride?
 
no i ask him i know what he was running bds rear springs with fox 2.0 long arm with deaver coils and 2.0's in the front the ride was awsome but i wanted to see what people were running im not looking to get into competing just something to get me by for now but when i get back from afgan ill have enough money to get more serious into it
 
Most guys that race or build something like crazy Jim has. They usually run 4wd with d30 up front and a 8.25 or 9" in the rear you might be able to get away with a d35 in the rear if you truss the he'll out of it and upgrade all of the internals. But usually a 6" lift With drop brackets or longarms, deaver leafs in the rear is the standard in jeepspeed. bypass shocks or really well valved 2.5 resi, full rollcage will help keep the body togeather along with plated frame and stiffeners from t&j from end to end. That's generally a pretty standard setup though I could be forgetting stuff.

Some guys go crazy front I beam conversions and 4link rear with coilovers
I'm personally gonna go with 4 link rear with a long arm front and coilovers but mine is also a play toy and long term deal. Best builds to look at are crazy jims and dogs, or the humble jeepspeed build on pirate is good also.
 
Most guys that race or build something like crazy Jim has. They usually run 4wd with d30 up front and a 8.25 or 9" in the rear you might be able to get away with a d35 in the rear if you truss the he'll out of it and upgrade all of the internals. But usually a 6" lift With drop brackets or longarms, deaver leafs in the rear is the standard in jeepspeed. bypass shocks or really well valved 2.5 resi, full rollcage will help keep the body togeather along with plated frame and stiffeners from t&j from end to end. That's generally a pretty standard setup though I could be forgetting stuff.

Some guys go crazy front I beam conversions and 4link rear with coilovers
I'm personally gonna go with 4 link rear with a long arm front and coilovers but mine is also a play toy and long term deal. Best builds to look at are crazy jims and dogs, or the humble jeepspeed build on pirate is good also.

thanks i appreciate all the advice
 
you mean the rear facing amber light? that does NOTHING in the global sense of a jeepspeed build....


...if you must know, any race shop sells them.

seriously, look around.
 
Most of the guys run either 2WD or convertible(they have a D-30 and a beam axle and swap them out based on course condition, leaving the transfer case installed) The Vac. disco, axles are considered weaker(and also heavier) in a race truck. To be honest I've never seen a disco housing on a race truck. Most everybody runs Cro-molly or hardened shafts.(both front and rear)

If you're building a toy that you may eventually turn into a racer, you have to be careful that anything you do is race-legal. As an example, you wouldn't want to cut out the front inner fenders and install coil-overs like crazyjim did to his rig. Nothing wrong with your rig Jim, 'love it, but it's a great example of a change that's really hard to put back to stock.

Regardless of your intended use, look over Larrythedog's build and Crazyjim's build as stated above. Pay particular attention to Jim's story about how/why he's "re-bodying" his runner. The bracing/plating is important for a dune-runner, and critical for a racer.
Larrythedog's build thread
CrazyJim's build thread
You should note that Larrythedog is building his rig for competition, and is ONLY concerned about racing it. Crazyjim's is a desert runner/toy, and I believe he's keeping it street-legal. That may explain a lot of the differences in what they are building. But notice that they BOTH spent a lot of time plating/strengthening the frame.

Here's a link to tech threads on various aspects of race- and safety-modification:
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1037602

There are 2 classes of Jeepspeed;
The "Jeepspeed challenge" or "1700 Class"
The "Mopar cup" or "3700 Class"
If you're running a competition 1700 class Cherokee, it has to have a solid front axle and leaf springs in back. If you want to build something wild with I-beams and links, it would have to be in the 3700 class

Read up on this thread, follow the links and download the Jeepspeed and the BITD rulebook:
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1006269
The Jeepspeed rules will tell you what modifications are legal for Jeepspeed, and what is forbidden, and the BITD rules(that stands for "Best In The Desert", a race sanctioning organization)will tell you what safety modifications and gear are required before you can run(cage, lights, fire-suit/helmet regs, etc)

As for the rear-facing lighting,(the yellow/amber and/or blue) that's identification lighting for competition vehicles. Mostly we use trailer lights, the 4" round or 2x6" ovals. A few people use more powerful colored flood lights: (rule book limited to 55w.) The amber light is simply racer identification, all cars required to have it. The blue is required for the slower classes only in BITD so the the trophy trucks and class one cars know they're approaching something that isn't going 60 miles an hour in the lap races.

Welcome to the addiction,... I mean club! :D
 
As an example, you wouldn't want to cut out the front inner fenders and install coil-overs like crazyjim did to his rig. Nothing wrong with your rig Jim, 'love it, but it's a great example of a change that's really hard to put back to stock.
That wasn't Jim, that was me :D

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Sorry Grim, I get you two mixed up all the time(it's oldtimers disease kicking in,...)

Speedbump: I don't run any aux lighting on my DD/trail runner. The race truck just has the ident. marker lights. (I got them from NAPA) The only time I've been out in dunes myself, it was in daylight and all we ran was a sand flag on a 15 foot whip. (It was in Mexico, in a CJ )
 
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ive had a couple close calls out in jv wheres everyone get there lights from?
Get ahold of Tony @ www.bajaHID.com about setting you up with some hella HIDs. Tell him I told you to call him. Or PM him his username here is "tcm glx".


Sorry Grim, I get you two mixed up all the time(it's oldtimers disease kicking in,...)
No problem :D
 
whats a good starter kit for jeepspeed im gunna throw a lift on my jeep and if i like it ill find the funds to start competeting i wanna run short arms so i can stay in a low beginner class
 
where im going they have classes and i wanna keep the cost down and keep it basic so when stuff brakes i dont have to worrk about spending 1k when i could keep the cost down
 
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