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Planned on slapping on the rear leafs and shocks today. Took forever to get the front bolts of the leafs, finally crancked them off and started on what I hoped would be the easier part. The nuts came off with a breaker slowly but the bolts are seized inside the bushings. After many attempts with a bfh I threw in the towel. Now I will have to pay the service guys to do it tomorrow. Hopefully they do not screw me.



Waiting at work for my wife to come get me.
 
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With as clean as my jeep is, I was hoping those would come out easier than others I've done. No such luck. It took me several hours to get those 4 bolts out.
 
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Grind the heads off, pry the spring out of the pocket, buy new bolts. It will save a lot of time and sweat.
 
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^ that's what I did. Then I anti seized the crap out of the new ones after cleaning up the threads a little. Hopefully when I go to stick a new leaf pack under it things will go smoother..
 
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Grind the heads off, pry the spring out of the pocket, buy new bolts. It will save a lot of time and sweat.

Huh...I should have tried that. I backed them out as far as I could and cut on both sides of the bushing with a sawzall. It makes a lot of smoke and ruins the blade but it worked alright. One side the bolt tip fell out, the other side I had to notch with a dremmel and back it out with a screw driver
 
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That method works too. You'll know next time.
 
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Huh...I should have tried that. I backed them out as far as I could and cut on both sides of the bushing with a sawzall. It makes a lot of smoke and ruins the blade but it worked alright. One side the bolt tip fell out, the other side I had to notch with a dremmel and back it out with a screw driver

This is the method that I use...

When I used leaf springs...

mac 'don't miss them' gyvr
 
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round 2 at the rear lift.


the grinder idea was a fail in this situation, the sawzaw was doing little to no work. my brother and i decided to try the torch.



eventually, and with plenty of hard work, and small fires, we got the springs out.



a few more struggles and the new springs went in.

1 bolt on each shock snapped, still need to figure that out. ran out of time so the brake hose is just hanging. i have new extended ones to install. i think my rear front driveshaft is bad, it will not extend out to reach the rear end.

the pass side front leaf spring bolt went right in, but the driver side did not. should not be a problem, i just didnt want to waste any time on it last night.

anyways technically its lifted
 
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You still gonna make it this weekend sam.


I think i am throwing the towel in on getting the jeep there, but still planning on coming out in the car and camping.

there now is even a possibility i come Friday since the wife and baby will be coming for the camping trip



:sunshine:
 
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the new extended brake lines went in Friday. they look puurty.






Saturdays projects were replace the new trans mount, swap out the track bar, do the IRO steering, and give it an over all look.

started with the trans mount that went fine. then went with the overall look, and found that one of the rear shocks came off. so i used a self tapping screw on the side wwith the snapped bolt and hoping that last...or at least for now.



i will probably come back to that problem later on both sides.



then my sweet hiem joint track bar




time caused my to bail on the steering. but the jeep is drive correctly down the road so i am happy.
 
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also, i was under the impression that the bad trans mount was the cause of the major vibration i am getting at higher speeds. it did not fix it.

any ideas? or is it just that 4:56 gears don't do so well at 75+mph?

could it be the strong control arm angels?
 
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Shouldn't be the gears.

mac 'driveshafts good?' gyvr
 
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Shouldn't be the gears.

mac 'driveshafts good?' gyvr

This. Are you running a front driveshaft in the rear? IIRC Aaron had a bad vibe or similar problem, ended up his front -> rear driveshaft was too short and was overextended, wobbling around on the splines.

Or drive slower :D
 
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is there enough thread angagement on the trackbar? that much thread showing would really worry me.


This. Are you running a front driveshaft in the rear? IIRC Aaron had a bad vibe or similar problem, ended up his front -> rear driveshaft was too short and was overextended, wobbling around on the splines.

Or drive slower :D
the splines for a front DS are much different than something specifically intended for a rear application. the splines deffinantly wear out over time.




OP: also keep in mind that the DS is now spinning much faster than it was before. so any vibrations are going to come much earlier than before. i vote you grab the DS and try to wiggle it. if there is any play in the Ujoints or slip joint, id suspect it as your problem.
 
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This. Are you running a front driveshaft in the rear? IIRC Aaron had a bad vibe or similar problem, ended up his front -> rear driveshaft was too short and was overextended, wobbling around on the splines.

Or drive slower :D
yes, i have the hack-n-tap and running a stock front drive shaft in the rear.

is there enough thread angagement on the trackbar? that much thread showing would really worry me.



the splines for a front DS are much different than something specifically intended for a rear application. the splines deffinantly wear out over time.




OP: also keep in mind that the DS is now spinning much faster than it was before. so any vibrations are going to come much earlier than before. i vote you grab the DS and try to wiggle it. if there is any play in the Ujoints or slip joint, id suspect it as your problem.

there is maybe about 2in in the track bar tube. the end was pretty long. i screwed it in to IRO's number which was 33 7/8 from center to center for 6.5in lift. hope it stays.

i will look into the drive shafts. i know that the ujoints and both the d30 and 8.25 are brand new but the ones by the transfer case are not.
 
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Sam, pull your rear ds and drive it. See what happens.

If the vibe goes away, you've found the problem. If not, repeat with the front ds
 
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pulled the flares off. planning on putting the tires on and trimming the fenders tomorrow



im sure a drop pitman arm is beneficial, but is it necessary at this height? can i go some time without worrying about it?



are my control arm angles ok? would drop brackets need to be a pretty soon step? do i need drop brackets?



i have never claimed to know alot about alot so help me out.
is this movement normal? the rear barley moves at all, the front spins a bit, but neither have any up and down play.
 
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