Overkill?

[Gridikal]

So I was working on changing all my fluids(engine, tranny, t-case, diffs) over the weekend in the garage- my dads garage- get the work done. Also worked on my interior a little bit more as I have not put any work into it for a while. Well, went on a trail ride Sunday and came back to all my tools in the driveway, and a few of my interior pieces thrown out and BROKEN (if you've seen them, you'll understand). Well I come to understand it as this: he comes home in bad mood from work (owns own buisness, employees are idots, that kind of thing). Well I left a few things out on the workbench, its a BIG workbench (wraps all the way around the room for the most part) so there is plenty of space. He proceeds to "vent". Later I learned he threw a paintcan I left out and it exploded all over his 8N tractor (now its got a big blue spot, I think he deseved it). But damn, I swear he just looks for things to go off on. It reminds me of the Tuttles on the Discovery Channel. I put everything away, just sometimes I'll leave a few things out off to the side that I'll use later that day. There was no reason for him to go off like that- now were both pissed.

Anyways, now he has all the tools locked up in his big-ass Kobalt tool lockers which I no longer have access to - or the garage for that part. I have my own hand tools, but now all the air tools and specialty tools are gone. No we're own a no-talk basis.

Anyone that lives with a father who brings their work home with them I feel for ya.

Great.
:rattle:

 

[Lincoln]

Not to sound harsh but your dad sounds like he's an ass when he's drunk and you need to be a big boy and move out.

 

[olivedrabcj7]

man, he sounds EXACTLY like my dad. my dad got reallly pised at me one night because i left out his dewalt and didnt put it back on the charger. the next morning he backed out of the garage in his F-250 supercrew and placed his ball mount right in the door of my XJ. then drove off. of course i couldnt say anything because it was technically HIS jeep (i was 16, he bought it for me). but i did have to drive it like that for a couple months until he finally paid to have it fixed. he has shit fits all the time about leaving tools out and stuff. ironically enough, my dad owns 2 RV dealerships and is constantly stressed out and it seems like he vents on me. oh well. ive learned to deal with it. surround myself with buddies when shit happens and we laugh about it. dont sweat it man. just let him chill for a day or 2 then try and talk to him about it.

 

[LBEXJ]

Sounds like you Dad has some major stress issues. That's a shame ...

I have a son that likes to work on his Jeep in the garage using my tools and supplies. I have to say it is frustrating when he leaves the tools out and does not clean up afterwards. I've had tools lost, and not had supplies available whenever I do a project. But I see it as par for the course. I did the same thing to my Dad when I was a kid ... now it's my turn.

One day it will be your turn and you'll understand your Dad a little better. Hopefully things will get better soon. Hang in there ...

Les

 

[Gridikal]

Ha, theres some irony- he doesn't drink

One more year at a community college and I'll transfer to a 4-year school... it can't get here soon enough.

I'd live elsewhere right now if I could find a job that would work around my school hours- right now I work for HIM due to hour flexibility. You can guess how that goes.

 

[olivedrabcj7]

heh...i worked for my old man too. its rough. but its also kinda cool talkin to everbody else that works for him and understanding that hes rough on everybody around there. plus you can talk smack behind his back. lol.

 

[ECKSJAY]

It's Teutul.

 

[Lincoln]

Ha, theres some irony- he doesn't drink

One more year at a community college and I'll transfer to a 4-year school... it can't get here soon enough.

I'd live elsewhere right now if I could find a job that would work around my school hours- right now I work for HIM due to hour flexibility. You can guess how that goes.

Then that sounds a lot like my house when I was young. We got along a lot better after he fired me.

Now I can be a big smart ass and as long as I can outrun the rocks he throws all is good. That or make Crash talk to him during the fits.

Never believed my friends (much old than me) that I would be surprised how different it would seem when I grew up some.

 

[XTrmXJ]

Stop bitching, be a man move out and wait to see how you react when you roomate looses your tools or doesnt put them back and makes a mess and doesnt fix the issues... Then you will see why he does it.. I dont like going into my garage to work on my project and have to clean someone else mess up or tools... My old man made me learn real fast in his shop not to make a mess and put stuff back.. I also work on 40 million dollar aircrafts and we are trained to do clean work and do an inventory of tools after every job and to keep a neat workspace, you dont think about those things until you have a human life in your hands that you are responsible for because you didnt put things where there soposse to be or missing tools as the jet rolls down the run way.. I know this doesnt exactly pertain to you but its a start to think about... We can go to Levanworth (maximum security jail for military members) if we were to by chance misplace a tool and it causes a crash because it was left in an aircraft...

 

[Spazz]

I work out of my Dad's garage on my junk (cause I live in apartments), and the easiest way to avoid problems is set some ground rules and let him know what work is going on and how long that work is going to take..
Some rules I go by-
- Respect his stuff and his garage. Nothing will piss someone off fast, even if it is family is if you leave a mess or his tools laying around. You may only be leaving for a short period of time, but he may not know that.

- If I brake it I replace it, If it is a consumable, I replenish it X2 (Shop towels, brake Kleen, fluids,etc)..

- Always leave the garage in better condition than what I found it. If I have to spend a few extra minutes sweeping it up, or what not, even though it was not my mess, no big deal.

- If he looks like he needs help, or asks for help, I put his tasks ahead of mine.

-Give him an idea of when I will be at his place, how long the work will take, and if the vehicle will be imobile for a period of time. I also leave a set of the Jeep keys in case he needs to move it.

I've only had one issue with my dad, and it was because some of his tools went missing. Well it turned out to be my other brother borrowing them without letting dad know. Guess who got the benefit of the doubt and who didn't.. I now have the only other set of keys to the new supply cabinets and the tool chests..

But yeah, it does seem your dad went overboard with destroying your stuff..

 

[Rev Den]

- Respect his stuff and his garage. Nothing will piss someone off fast, even if it is family is if you leave a mess or his tools laying around. You may only be leaving for a short period of time, but he may not know that.

EXACTLLY!

Your dad has given you food and shelter most of your life, or maybe all at this point. Be a man and beg for forgivness, admit your screw-up. He may have gone a little over the edge, but if he owns his own buisness he is dealing with stress that you can only imagine, the last thing he needs after a rough day is coming home to your crap all over and you gone. Put yourself in his place.

Someday...you will be sorry that this crap ever had to happen, patch it up NOW!

Rev

 

[planefixer]

Stop bitching, be a man move out and wait to see how you react when you roomate looses your tools or doesnt put them back and makes a mess and doesnt fix the issues... Then you will see why he does it.. I dont like going into my garage to work on my project and have to clean someone else mess up or tools... My old man made me learn real fast in his shop not to make a mess and put stuff back.. I also work on 40 million dollar aircrafts and we are trained to do clean work and do an inventory of tools after every job and to keep a neat workspace, you dont think about those things until you have a human life in your hands that you are responsible for because you didnt put things where there soposse to be or missing tools as the jet rolls down the run way.. I know this doesnt exactly pertain to you but its a start to think about... We can go to Levanworth (maximum security jail for military members) if we were to by chance misplace a tool and it causes a crash because it was left in an aircraft...

You hit the nail on the head :thumbup: .F.O.D. is bad All my tools are arranged in the box so all I have to do is open a drawer and I can tell if something is missing.Even if i dont need that particular tool at the time I find out where it is so it doesn't end up getting left in a customer's aircraft.This practice has been stressed to my employees as well.Everything must be accounted for.


I've been on my own since 17(including going to college) sounds like you need to move out and get away from your angry dad.I can see his point about tools not being put away but his reaction was a little overboard in my opinion.If you live under his roof you have to respect his stuff and his wishes.I'm not trying to bag on you just giving some advice. :lecture:

 

[Lawn Cher']

I have a son that likes to work on his Jeep in the garage using my tools and supplies... I did the same thing to my Dad when I was a kid./QUOTE]

They had Jeeps when you were a kid? Or is that what you named your dinosaur?

 

[Urban Redneck]

Nay..I make mess an ny fater get mad...nay....
Dude, get a clue. If it is HIS work bench, in HIS garage, with HIS tools, what do you expect? Be glad you only got banned from the garage, I would have changed the locks on the house next time you left, not to mention that you would be paying for a repaint of the tractor. Leave the space the same way you found it, perferably in better condition than you found it in. Give respect to get respect. Leave the shop spotless when you are done and he will notice that you have respect for his stuff and will let you use it again. Otherwise, to him it appears that you could give a crap about his stuff, that you have no respect for the tools, the space or the man. When I lived at home and was doing motor rebuilds, I didn't care if the Ol' Man left crap all around, the garage was totally spotless every night when I finished my work. Helps make it easier to find the tool you need when you need it and it shows the Ol' Man you have grown up into a man yourself not a retard...

Nay...

 

[Gridikal]

He knew I was leaving- he was just on one of his mood swings.

He has a nasty habbit of breaking out the bad side while mom's away.

Anyway things are looking better- I ran into him today at Tractor Supply while I was getting some paint for the tractor. We ended up going to the new Harley shop that just opened up.

Thanks for the input from you all on past experiences.


I just don't see where its fair to have permission and access to the garage and then get hell for it simply because he had a bad day. And yeah, I clean it when I'm done- and do a damn good job- usually end up cleaning all his crap up as well.

I guess hes just geting old I recon, we were planning on re-doing the shop here in May so hopefully thats still on.

 

[Citat3962]

This post reminds me I need to get a good tool set (not crap from harbor freight) So I can get the tool organizers that come with them...

The ones you get with cheapy tools fall apart leading to lots of disorganized tools... I think the old ones need to be demoted to trail/Jyard tools so the garage tool set stays organized...

I was out there this weekend and probably spent 40% of my project time looking for the correct tools.

 

[490Chaser]

I just don't see where its fair to have permission and access to the garage and then get hell for it simply because he had a bad day. And yeah, I clean it when I'm done- and do a damn good job- usually end up cleaning all his crap up as well.

I guess hes just geting old I recon, we were planning on re-doing the shop here in May so hopefully thats still on.

Look, yes he lost his temper, but you could have said to him or left a note that "Dad I'll be back soon. I'm just testing some stuff out" and that would have avoided the whole thing. Sure it's not right to project anger or stress on someone else. Suck it up, admit you are wrong, say you're sorry then if he ever lets you back into the garage write out some agree upon rules of engagement. My dad and I have a set, one time I was being an idiot and broke them and acted like I couldn't care less. So he knocked me out. When i came to I appologised fixed the problem and we never have had any problems since. That's the only time in 12 years he ever hit me and i deserved it. So be a man, cowboy up and do the right thing.

 

[JTBOSCO]

I feel your pain....I once spilled paint on the garage floor,an accident, and got an ass whooping. However, you know your old man....you never should have left the stuff out....period. Then non of this would have happened. One day when you have your own stuff you will better understand.

 

[xjfrancis]

I feel for ja, by dad owns his own business and has been having trouble with his partner, which is also his brother. We sort of have a family feude going on right now. my did threatened to sue my uncle the other day after my unlce tryed to pull a power play. But my dad tries not to vent his anger a home, but sometimes he can't help it.