New CA. smog regulations

[GSequoia]

Hey maybe I am wrong. I am just going by what I have been told and what the general concensus is around the people I know. If I am wrong, then I apologize, but I would like to know how there is a group of SF drag racers that don't smog and yet still register their cars every year.

They're probably registered through a plot of land in one of the way northern counties or Imperial county where there is no smog check program.

 

[tbburg]

I got busted 2 years ago here in Phoenix on an Evap. leak. They never had to run any tests. My ODBII system was kind enough to tell them about it. Two days at the Jeep dealer and $345.00 to chase down a bad tank O-ring.

 

[5-90]

Yes Bryan C. I understand that there is some smog laws in Dublin, but as far as I am concerned that is not what I am referring to when it comes to the Bay Area. I am talking about the actual Bay Area, SF bay, Half Moon Bay, South SF and the likes of all the areas that generate all of our protestors and democrats(see red highlighted area below before you start burning up the keyboard flaming me). The last time I looked all of those areas do not have smog and when I worked in Tracy, I used to sit on Corral Hollow and Grant Line to watch the smog get blown over the Altamont into the valley.

I just get tired of the analogy that the "wind keeps our air clean, so we don't need smog testing."........ So what if I fart and it blows into the next room, does that mean it doesn't stink anymore. Just because there is no smog in the Bay Area does not mean that there is no pollution generated. I agree with you, that where there is no enforcement there is no concern for the law/environment/etc. I know several guys that I used to drag race with that live in the Bay Area. What do they always do with their cars?, Yank the smog equipment off. After all they don't have to worry about it.

No offense to anyone here, but if you believe that just because the wind blows smog away, you don't contribute to the problem then maybe you need to stop occupying the gene pool. I mean, if we were to apply the CA smog logic to Bakersfield then they need to have their cars taken away and given bicycles. After all their mistake is geographical as well. Hell why not just dump your oil into the ocean, the current will carry it away right?

I am a proponent of the CA smog laws and it does a great job of keeping people in check. I feel they are a great way to ensure that your car is running perfectly or good for that matter. But I think SF needs to stop making all the wind by waving their protest signs and actually do what they keep telling everyone else to do. THIS IS NOT A FLAME ON SF, I KNOW THAT ONE BAD APPLE RUINS THE WHOLE BUNCH. I AM SPEAKING SOLELY OF THE LEGISLATORS AND THE POLITICIANS. NOT THE RESIDENTS OF SF.

I do agree with 5-90, in case anyone missed it I am a retired cop and there is an overabundance of people out there who aren't qualified to push a shopping cart let alone drive a car, but alas CA keep handing out licenses.

The problem with the smog programme proper isn't the ideation - the basic idea of what they're trying to do is sound. It's the execution of that idea, and failing to realise that there is "more than one way to skin a cat" - with several being more effective than the one the factory has saddled us with...

Before SCII rolled out here, I was going roundy-rounds with the RD and the AD of CARB, and the RD told me about a workshop they were having for smog shops - and would I like to come around? Dumb move (on their part) - first they invited me in (I was the only "consumer" there...) second, they gave me six bloody weeks to come up with questions and do research.

Even the techs there got in on the act. I must have run that meeting for a good half-hour, with the AD and RD standing there holding their limp lizards in their hands with no answers to my questions. That satisfied anyone.

My proposition?

1) Eliminate the visual inspection. Who cares how the numbers are made, just so they're made.

2) If you can reduce emissions by at least half from when your vehicle was new, you get a discount on your renewal. By at least three-quarters? Deeper discount. If you can drag it down to zero, you get free renewal (incentive for wrenchheads like us...)

3) Allow modifications to be made, if they're shown to reduce "harmful emissions output." The CARB E.O. system is a pain in the arse - and some guys get seriously limited on parts.

4) If you want to aggressively go after someone, go after the cars belching smoke out on the roadways. Don't send me in every year, or six months, or whatever, just because I don't like anything that is offered as a replacement for my twenty-year-old truck. That's just stupid.

What say you?

 

[Nuke Proof]

Okay first thing is first-I was wrong about the Bay Area smog. There is smog regs and I was completely uneducated on the subject. I apologize for my ignorance.

5-90-completely agree, I had (emphasis on had until some shitbag stole it) an 88 Mustang with a 347, 10.5:1 and a cam that made mountain ranges jealous, but through the miracles of EEC-IV tuning with CalMap software the car passed smog everytime without a hitch (except for all of the carb e.o. confirmation crap).

As a matter of fact, it burned cleaner than my Dad's 05 chev PU. What did I get and all of the manufacturers get for their hard work? The EPA, CARB and several other clean air nazi's crawling up their ass trying to desimate the aftermarket and destroy the hopes and dreams of anyone who looks at a car as more than "transportation."

It has been proven time and time again, a well tuned performance rig will burn as clean as anything else.