Also I believe the apex holds 80 ft of cable while the m8 is 100..... I did some digging when I was deciding and one reason I went with an m8 was speed under load. With 6k lbs it should be faster than any of the Chinese winches even the warn evo's.... but my main reason was it fit where I wanted to put it so..... hahaha
Run whatever gets you on the trail! People make to big of a deal about name,color, and weather they kill kittens in the process! When you get the apex let's hear some comparisons between it and your current
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