Morimoto projector headlight conversion

[Ben824]

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55watt are not recommended in smaller projector housing like morimoto and smaller fog light housing such as in hondas and passanger cars .. they get way to hot and dont have enough heat disspersion .. thats why they dont have that option .. its unsafe ..all thought it will work .. they dont want u burning down your car .. ive been workin with hids for 5 years now and they do weird things ..


as for the wiring harness u wont need that anyways the only time u need a harness is if your car needs it .. some cars wont let the hids work.. cause they are canbus systems .. which means the ecu is reading voltage at the light and the ballast are takin to much power.. this is common on most cars that want to put hids in .. like subaru .. audi .. mercedes .. these cars also need error canceling capacitors so the check bulb light will go off the dash ..

also if u install hids in your car and one turns on but the other just flickers or hummz and flickers .. u need a harness

The 55 watt ballasts do just fine and they may get hot but I don't think the TRS guys would sell me something that would burn down my car. I may be running a risk of testing the heat limits of the smaller projectors but setting fire to my Jeep is not an issue. If it were to ever happen I have a fire extinguisher anyways. The Jeep Cherokee does NEED a secondary wiring harness. The factory harness is way to small to power ballasts and trying to draw that much power from an inadequate size wiring that is going to atleast 11 years old or older and that is asking for a fire.

And so you don't get yourself in trouble you might want to check with TRS or a lawyer about possible trademark infringement since TheRetrofitSource.com owns all trademark rights of Morimoto in the United States.

 

[wanaB4x4]

The 55 watt ballasts do just fine and they may get hot but I don't think the TRS guys would sell me something that would burn down my car. I may be running a risk of testing the heat limits of the smaller projectors but setting fire to my Jeep is not an issue. If it were to ever happen I have a fire extinguisher anyways. The Jeep Cherokee does NEED a secondary wiring harness. The factory harness is way to small to power ballasts and trying to draw that much power from an inadequate size wiring that is going to atleast 11 years old or older and that is asking for a fire.

And so you don't get yourself in trouble you might want to check with TRS or a lawyer about possible trademark infringement since TheRetrofitSource.com owns all trademark rights of Morimoto in the United States.

and i know RTS has a warning in the box when u open it .. says we do not warranty what happens to your car when installing these products .xenon is a gas the bulbs do explode and self exstinguish them selfs but also ive seen ballast explode.. wires melt.. ask rts they will tell u ive been installing hids for 5 years now everyday u cannot predict what will happen .. ive seen hids with wiring harnesses blow out lighting control boxes in audi's and mercedes .. ive seen ballast arch through the housing onto ground .ive been shocked by ballasts not properly installed prolly once a week

it does not matter what parts in the aftermarket range . be engine .. transmission .. lights ..ect.. they will not warranty what happens when u install in after market what u buy for any reason at all. theres a reason a 55 watt hid is not on there its not safe or legal ..and yes im sure they will sell u a 55 watt hid system if it is not safe . they have no clue what u are using it on.


retrofit source does not sell/provide any retrofit headlights at all .. they only sell the conversions so u can do it your self .. or there 2 RECOMMENDED RETROFITTERS in all of the usa .. i am NOT selling or manufacturing morimoto brand retrofit kits .. these are globe autowerks retro fit headlights and do not include morimotos ballasts, bulbs ..or wiring harnesses. they include globe autowerks supplied Super slim ballast's, bulbs , projectors, housings and free wiring harnesses included

this was simply a test to see if anyone uses that type of generic projector .. i have many different projectors that could be used in this type of headlight . i am currently doing them in every other headlight except sealed beam headlights since i seen no good sealed beam conversions and customers ask about them

 

[wanaB4x4]

and i know RTS has a warning in the box when u open it .. says we do not warranty what happens to your car when installing these products .xenon is a gas the bulbs do explode and self exstinguish them selfs but also ive seen ballast explode.. wires melt.. ask rts they will tell u ive been installing hids for 5 years now everyday u cannot predict what will happen .. ive seen hids with wiring harnesses blow out lighting control boxes in audi's and mercedes .. ive seen ballast arch through the housing onto ground .ive been shocked by ballasts not properly installed prolly once a week

it does not matter what parts in the aftermarket range . be engine .. transmission .. lights ..ect.. they will not warranty what happens when u install in after market what u buy for any reason at all. theres a reason a 55 watt hid is not on there its not safe or legal ..and yes im sure they will sell u a 55 watt hid system if it is not safe . they have no clue what u are using it on.


retrofit source does not sell/provide any retrofit headlights at all .. they only sell the conversions so u can do it your self .. or there 2 RECOMMENDED RETROFITTERS in all of the usa .. i am NOT selling or manufacturing morimoto brand retrofit kits .. these are globe autowerks retro fit headlights and do not include morimotos ballasts, bulbs ..or wiring harnesses. they include globe autowerks supplied Super slim ballast's, bulbs , projectors, housings and free wiring harnesses included

this was simply a test to see if anyone uses that type of generic projector .. i have many different projectors that could be used in this type of headlight . i am currently doing them in every other headlight except sealed beam headlights since i seen no good sealed beam conversions and customers ask about them

if u have any question about how hid works .. check this site best review of all things hid http://faqlight.shopower.com/hl-hid-bulbs.htm

 

[yossarian19]

Can we see a shot of the HIDs installed into a H4 7" rectangular housing, like the Cherokee uses? Have you retro'ed them into a Cherokee before / know what would need to be chopped if anything?

 

[DanMan2k06]

Yes, you do have to do some gratuitous chopping of your header panel. Not so much chopping, but a hole saw has to be used to enlarge the area behind the headlight.

I love my Morimotos on my bike. They were originally going into my jeep but I got sidetracked and priorities changed. 55 watt ballasts are DEFINITELY NOT recommended for such a small projector/enclosure. They burn so hot it will make the plating inside the reflector bowl peel up. And once that happens, it's useless. Not to mention it could melt the clear lense of you enclosure.

 

[wanaB4x4]

Can we see a shot of the HIDs installed into a H4 7" rectangular housing, like the Cherokee uses? Have you retro'ed them into a Cherokee before / know what would need to be chopped if anything?

no i dont believe u will have to since they do not stick out .. these projectors have a adapter that fits in like a bulb .. to make them flush they might stick out less then a inch out the back

 

[wanaB4x4]

Yes, you do have to do some gratuitous chopping of your header panel. Not so much chopping, but a hole saw has to be used to enlarge the area behind the headlight.

I love my Morimotos on my bike. They were originally going into my jeep but I got sidetracked and priorities changed. 55 watt ballasts are DEFINITELY NOT recommended for such a small projector/enclosure. They burn so hot it will make the plating inside the reflector bowl peel up. And once that happens, it's useless. Not to mention it could melt the clear lense of you enclosure.

yes this is right also thanks for that info havent seen that yet

 

[OverlandZJ]

im not selling them just yet..im workin on a line for the north america off road division of my company .. currently we are asia and euro but i would be glad to sponser naxja . mods get at me .. thanks

[email protected] and he will get you setup as a sponsoring vendor.

Have you done anything with the ZJ Grand Cherokee's? I'm not liking the $250 option just to get a glass e-code lense and H4 bulb..

 

[CobraMarty]

What I am looking for is a set of HID projector, angle eye, headlights all done and ready to install. Just plug and play. No butchered up rear headlight housing, ill fitting projectors, unlabeled wires, no cutting of the XJ metal. 4300k, 35w, white AE.

How about a set of glass lensed housings with projectors installed, angel eyes, sealed, with all plugs in place, and include the HD wiring harness that is needed. All tested and ready to go. Just wire in the HD harness, mount the ballast, and plug in the headlights. No cutting of the inner headlight sheet metal/header panel on my XJ.

Is anyone else interested is this? I would pay ? $300 for the HID projector headlights all done with the HD harness. That is one stop shopping. I am tired of shopping here and there and getting the wrong piece and paying all the shipping.

 

[wanaB4x4]

[email protected] and he will get you setup as a sponsoring vendor.

Have you done anything with the ZJ Grand Cherokee's? I'm not liking the $250 option just to get a glass e-code lense and H4 bulb..

yes the zj's dont reflect the hid light very well .. i am workin on a good price for the crystal lenses ..

 

[O-Gauge Steamer]

What I am looking for is a set of HID projector, angle eye, headlights all done and ready to install. Just plug and play. No butchered up rear headlight housing, ill fitting projectors, unlabeled wires, no cutting of the XJ metal. 4300k, 35w, white AE.

How about a set of glass lensed housings with projectors installed, angel eyes, sealed, with all plugs in place, and include the HD wiring harness that is needed. All tested and ready to go. Just wire in the HD harness, mount the ballast, and plug in the headlights. No cutting of the inner headlight sheet metal/header panel on my XJ.

Is anyone else interested is this? I would pay ? $300 for the HID projector headlights all done with the HD harness. That is one stop shopping. I am tired of shopping here and there and getting the wrong piece and paying all the shipping.

There is a way. Not cheap. Projectors are never cheap. The Commander came with Projectors and thier housings will fit, with a little work into the XJ front end. On my List Of Things To Do Before I Die.

But, at better than $300 per housing, used, it is not high on the list. But, If I do do this, I will take a mould of the front header so it can be reproduced... Just don't hold your breaths here. It may be I do the halogen first. Good news is that the two sets of housings have the same dimensions...

 

[DanMan2k06]

Is anyone else interested is this? I would pay ? $300 for the HID projector headlights all done with the HD harness. That is one stop shopping. I am tired of shopping here and there and getting the wrong piece and paying all the shipping.

Might as well keep hoping/looking/praying cuz that's never gonna happen. You make it sound like a crucial headache, but really it's not bad at all if you do the research. If you wanna be lazy about it, throw me 1000 bones and you'll have every requirement fulfilled that you listed above. Otherwise, not gonna happen.

 

[urban yan]

What I am looking for is a set of HID projector, angle eye, headlights all done and ready to install. Just plug and play. No butchered up rear headlight housing, ill fitting projectors, unlabeled wires, no cutting of the XJ metal. 4300k, 35w, white AE.

How about a set of glass lensed housings with projectors installed, angel eyes, sealed, with all plugs in place, and include the HD wiring harness that is needed. All tested and ready to go. Just wire in the HD harness, mount the ballast, and plug in the headlights. No cutting of the inner headlight sheet metal/header panel on my XJ.

Is anyone else interested is this? I would pay ? $300 for the HID projector headlights all done with the HD harness. That is one stop shopping. I am tired of shopping here and there and getting the wrong piece and paying all the shipping.

Might as well keep hoping/looking/praying cuz that's never gonna happen. You make it sound like a crucial headache, but really it's not bad at all if you do the research. If you wanna be lazy about it, throw me 1000 bones and you'll have every requirement fulfilled that you listed above. Otherwise, not gonna happen.

That's more than what I paid for my kit 7 years ago, but yes I agree that a $300 pricepoint for a complete kit is beyond wishful thinking. Furthermore, I can't think of a single projector retro that won't involve some cutting; everything has a trade-off. Oh, and angel eyes? B*tch please; those suckers are completely played out.


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[DanMan2k06]

Inflation man. You know the economy sucks

 

[O-Gauge Steamer]

Might as well keep hoping/looking/praying cuz that's never gonna happen. You make it sound like a crucial headache, but really it's not bad at all if you do the research. If you wanna be lazy about it, throw me 1000 bones and you'll have every requirement fulfilled that you listed above. Otherwise, not gonna happen.

The $1k figure is pretty close to correct if new Commander housings/ballast/bulbs are used.

 

[CobraMarty]

Wishful thinking or not, there aren't many reasonable options.

1-upgrade to SilverStar sealed beam bulbs
2-upgraded harness and stock or SilverStar bulbs
3-upgraded harness + H4 conversion headlights Rampage or Autopal
4-#3 + 55/100 or 90/100 H4 bulbs
5-HID bulbs with H4 conversion headlight housings
6-HID Projectors and bulbs in H4 conversion headlight housings

 

[GrimmJeeper]

upgraded harness alone is going to give you at least twice the light output over the stock BS, the wiring of the OEM headlight harness in the XJ is grossly undersized. for a daily driver if you don't want to piss off oncoming drivers the most cost effective option would be either silverstar sealed beam replacements or *quality* h4 housings and IPF or silverstar bulbs.

 

[FlexdXJ]

Yeah, i have HID's in autopal housings.....not the best. A retrofit is on the list of things to do though. I have them aimed low enough not to blid everyone.....either that or they are used to it from all the stupid ricers running around here.......i thought that was a good idea at the time........

 

[CobraMarty]

Yeah, i have HID's in autopal housings.....not the best. A retrofit is on the list of things to do though. I have them aimed low enough not to blid everyone.....either that or they are used to it from all the stupid ricers running around here.......i thought that was a good idea at the time........

Most make reflective housings are not optimized for the HID bulbs. I have the HID bulbs in my F150 and not the best, sort of scattered light. HID's seem to work OK in fog lights where you want light down low and scattered. HID's in projector housings are unbelivable. Love them in our BMW, angel eyes and all.

Daylight running lights are definately a benifit. They really are a safety feature. Not headlights on during the day but some sort of DRLs. The Audi and Mercedes LED line of dots looks bad, the BMW AE are nice.

 

[CobraMarty]

Updated list and prices.

1-upgrade to SilverStar sealed beam bulbs $40-45
2-upgraded PUTCO H4 harness $25-35 and stock or SilverStar bulbs $40-45
3-upgraded harness $25-35 + H4 conversion headlights- Rampage $60 + bulbs or Autopal $40-45 + 50/55w bulbs $20-40
4-#3 + 55/100 or 90/100 H4 bulbs $20-40
5-HID bulbs with H4 conversion headlight housings $50-125 + PUTCO $25-35 + Rampage $60 or Autopal $40-45
6-HID Projectors and bulbs in H4 conversion headlight housings and PUTCO harness ?300-350
7-LED by Truck-lite $500pr + PUTCO harness $25-35
8-Jeep Commander headlights $500+