ruger81
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- Battle Ground WA
he is going if I am. we are going to put out jeeps on my big trailer. but if atlas doesn't come thru then were out. Daves off-road is supposed to call me Monday and tell me for sure
Long Arm Kit
- Thread starter kenny811
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he is going if I am. we are going to put out jeeps on my big trailer. but if atlas doesn't come thru then were out. Daves off-road is supposed to call me Monday and tell me for sure
kenny811
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- Damascus, OR
Ok now I see the difference between the Y link and 4 link. Correct me if Im wrong, Clayton has the "4 link" 4 control arms that dont conect to each other, they conect to the frame 4 places. Y link 2 lower control arms with 2 uppers that connect to the lowers ( as in the picture I posted). Sound about right?
ruger81
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- Location
- Battle Ground WA
This is the Rustys kit I was looking at
there is nothing wrong with this kit. matter of fact this kit is exactly what bronze said he would like a back up upper link. it doesn't limit flex and is tuff.
crazymoose1990
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- Location
- Beavertown
Clayton's are a y-link, not a 4 link
- Location
- NE Texas
Should NOTE a few Miscellaneous CON's:
1: Make sure the Kit you buy has a 3 piece Cross-member.. a few DONT, and while you may not service your transmission often, or need to lower your factory cross-member often.. The day you do, expect to add a few BIG steps to the job!
2: I like Ironrock's kit.. But Be aware, It's solely for a Dana 30. It will NOT work on any other front axle, without a Great deal of modifications..
3: Bushings, Joints, etc.. Read reviews on the Kit your interested in!!! I CANT STRESS THIS ENOUGH! I personally couldnt say witch kit is "stronger" then another kit.. But I do know that "Chinese" joints/bushings do not compare to OEM style bushings, and Currie Johnny joints.. One Company I've had this issue with, was Rough country.. Bushings AND Johny joints wore out completely in the first 5k miles..
1: Make sure the Kit you buy has a 3 piece Cross-member.. a few DONT, and while you may not service your transmission often, or need to lower your factory cross-member often.. The day you do, expect to add a few BIG steps to the job!
2: I like Ironrock's kit.. But Be aware, It's solely for a Dana 30. It will NOT work on any other front axle, without a Great deal of modifications..
3: Bushings, Joints, etc.. Read reviews on the Kit your interested in!!! I CANT STRESS THIS ENOUGH! I personally couldnt say witch kit is "stronger" then another kit.. But I do know that "Chinese" joints/bushings do not compare to OEM style bushings, and Currie Johnny joints.. One Company I've had this issue with, was Rough country.. Bushings AND Johny joints wore out completely in the first 5k miles..
ruger81
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- Location
- Battle Ground WA
I completely agree.
kenny811
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- Location
- Damascus, OR
I have heard about and planned on going with the 3 pc cross member, I will read more about the joints. I will make sure they are OEM or American made!!
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ruger81
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- Location
- Battle Ground WA
I have heard about and planned on going with the 3 pc cross member, I will read more about the joints. I will make sure they are OEM or American made!!
I can say that the rusty joints need a bit of attention the first 3000mi but after that it just grease and go. also all bushings and joint can be replaced later one at a time or just collect them and do them at once.
I plan when my rusty joints go bad I will invest in Currie joints
Mnkyboy
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- Location
- Sandy,Oregon
What do you have for front suspension now? If you have good short arm stuff already a set of drop brackets could be an option, you can stay 4 link and have long arm flex.
BoringDave
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- Boring
Drop brackets blow! But I know you have them along with adjustable arms. But if he has to go buy all that like I now do he may as well stick with plan A.
Mnkyboy
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- Sandy,Oregon
Thats why I asked what he has now, they are a good option if you already have decent parts but if you dont then a good drop bracket setup can cost as much as long arms.
Not sure what blows about them,Mine work great.
Not sure what blows about them,Mine work great.
kenny811
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- Location
- Damascus, OR
My set up now is a rustys 6.5" with a over knuckle hime steer. In fact my whole set up came from Rustys, springs, all the steering, track bar, drag link, shocks and the SYE kit. The front end is a D30, with an aussie.
- Location
- NE Texas
What do you have for control arms?
kenny811
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- Location
- Damascus, OR
I really think the limiting factor to my suspension, ride & flex is long arm, this is how the whole thing got started.
kenny811
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- Location
- Damascus, OR
I have the first built set of adjustable arms that Andy ( iron man ) built for sale.
- Location
- NE Texas
6.5" on short arms IS a limiting factor.. But if you have Quality Adjustable arms, A Drop bracket kit WILL fix your problems for 1/3rd of the price. FYI!
- Location
- Vancouver, WA
Someone remembers what happen to RedJeep before the long arm...
Drop brackets wouldn't stop moving on me
Got rid of them very shortly after
That was a long drive home... One lower 2 uppers
BoringDave
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- Boring
Someone remembers what happen to RedJeep before the long arm...
Drop brackets wouldn't stop moving on me
Got rid of them very shortly after
That was a long drive home... One lower 2 uppers
Like I said, drop brackets blow.
Mnkyboy
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- Location
- Sandy,Oregon
I dont remember, were those brackets braced? Mine are braced all the way back to the trans crossmember.
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Bronzewyrm
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- Independence,or
not really, it is a y link. relying on the (2) frame mount points. id hate to see what the suspention did if you lost one of thoes on the trail.i run a true 3 link and would add another true link if i did it agin. plus in all y link systems i see binding issues in the geometry. dont get me wrong redjeep2.0, fiveNdime, mojojojo and many others have had major sucess and major flex. its just my take on things. id just prefer a true 4 link like the bds. with more beef
Someone remembers what happen to RedJeep before the long arm...
Drop brackets wouldn't stop moving on me
Got rid of them very shortly after
That was a long drive home... One lower 2 uppers
dont let this fool you, nic was having problems with this contol arm bucket for a while befor it did this. he ran no braces to suport the back side of them. we had warned him a feiw times that it was starting to rock around. he wheeled it until it failed, then went long arm shortly after. many people have ram DB's, braced them up, and no problem... they have amazed me then and still to this day.
