List your stock Backspacing here....

XJ_ranger said:
funny - id sware all the toy light truck/suv was a 6 lug pattern... are their p/u different?

yeah they are, mostly. this was a 2wd 4cylinder which has a 5 on 4.5 pattern and i believe a toyota 7.5 inch axle. they guy liked to autocross it and the ranger wheels sat out further and could fit 245s.

Eagle said:
I was thinking axles when I was writing about wheels. The Exploder 8.8 axle is slightly narrower than the XJ rear axle, so when doing an 8.8 conversion you either need to run wheels with less backspacing or run spacers on the rear axle.

i getcha, and actually i knew what you were getting at, i just felt like clarifying. i was trying to stir discussion about this very same thing. if you were to run stock backspaced wheels in front, and explorer backspaced wheels in back, you would keep the track from being to narrow, and decrease bearing loads on the 8.8. the factory wheels on explorers have 4.5" backspacing, so they should sit out .75" per side wider and give a 3/8" per side wider track in the back than in front. this is not what we want of course, as it may slightly increase turning radius. i think the best solution would be to have 4.5" backspacing in the front (making the tires stick out .75" per side from stock), and 3.5 in the back (making the tires stick out 1" per side further from the stock 8.8 with explorer wheels, and only 1/8" narrower per side than the front.) i know the usual .75" difference in width with the 8.8 isn't much, but this solution i think will bring my specs closer and give me a better track width at the same time. too messy?
later,
mike
 
Okay, another post I read shows that the difference per side with the Exploder 8.8 is actually .75" per side (narrower). If this is true, 4.5" BS in the front would make the D30 track .75" wider per side (than stock). 3.5" BS in the rear would make the 8.8" .25" per side wider (than stock). 3" backspaced wheels in the rear and 4.5 BS in the front would make the tracks equal! Now what to do about that pinion being 1+7/16 further to the passenger side...I guess that's not very much difference. Damn, I am a nitpicker. Why the hell couldn't jeep have just put a Dana 44 with discs in Cherokees?!
 
PapaPump said:
3" backspaced wheels in the rear and 4.5 BS in the front would make the tracks equal!

forget to take your ADD medicine again this morning?

first:
my 8.8 is 1.5" narrower than my D30. thats .75" per side. these are my actual measurements, not something i've read. you're talking about running this backspacing in the front and that backspacing in the rear and.... keep it simple. one backspacing, one spare, the ability to rotate your tires, etc. its not really that big of a difference. you can barely tell by looking and i've certainly never noticed any ill effects.

besides, running 3" bs rear and 4.5" bs front will still make your front wider. the difference is only .75" per side. if you want them to be equal you need to make the back .75" wider. i.e. 4.5" bs front and 3.75" bs rear would be an equal trackwidth.

here are some pics:





second:
exploder wheels...i'm running this exploder wheel for my spare. the backspacing is 5". once again, this is my measurement, not something i've read. i have no idea about any other ford wheels, only this one.



third:
the pinion is offset. it hasn't affected me at all. i did have to beat my muffler back over after i smashed it once to keep it off the driveshaft, but thats been the only problem.


click the images for bigger pics.


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wow talk about over complicating it? it was 4 in the morning and i was trying hard to think about it all, so no i hadn't had my ADD medicine (cookie crisp). I hadn't even been to bed at that time. it seems there are different listing for explorer backspacing, though most of the wheels seem to look more like 5", as you said. you are here responding to me and have measured it yourself, and i have no reason to assume you are wrong. with wider wheels, i guess it really doesnt matter much anyhow like you said.
 
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