Jeep 2500 Parts... I found them here...

[ehall]

Probably can't bring it over for use as a daily driver due to emissions

 

[cjd_1986]

Really? Cause I heard China has stricter laws than the US when it comes to EPA standards since so much of the world population lives over there. Hence why the 2.5 and 2.7L is in it depending if u get the 2500 or 2700 model #. They won't even allow the old 4.0L over there because of emissions. Otherwise I'm sure they would've put the 4.0L in it or maybe something even bigger.

The question is if you bring it over here is parts and stuff. If something goes wrong /w it and it used a dif setup then our American ones good luck ordering parts from China. They'll be overpriced same with insurance on it. It would be classified as a rare vehicle since the only people that would own one here are those that had it shipped. I thought the same I know it'd be nice to have a brand new XJ with almost no miles on it. Or at least an XJ that's only a couple of years old like in the old days.

Sure there's stuff on it that prob came stock like the new gauge, higher speedometer, prob electronic stablility control. Stuff that even if you put that body kit on our Jeeps you still won't have. But other than that perf wise it has the little engine in it. You'd prob want to shove the 4.0L+ in there if you can. Question is though the other specs. Saw the thread saying on how the 2000 series and up had problems where the late 90's models didn't and prior ones did as well. Would it be superior or inferior to the 99's? I'd say the latter.

Sucks maybe they'll surprise us and bring it back in the near future. Maybe one of their current lineup will have low sales and they'll be forced to discontinue it bringing the 'ol Cherokee back. Surprised they never made an SRT-6 Cherokee would've been nice. That Hurricane looked sick but that was just a concept. Thing had 2 Hemi's in it lol. 670 hp 740 lb ft of torque. Thing would've been scary as hell to drive I bet. All I say is we all need to have a gathering then go to Chrysler and protest.

Honestly if I got rid of my XJ I really wouldn't buy any of the new Jeeps. I mean the SRT-8 is nice but pricey though u get a hell of a lot of perf. New Liberty looks alright though a lot like the Nitro like their running out of ideas. Compass eh and Patriot its got no power in it! Commander well its like a Jeep Caravan lots of seats. Wrangler's the only one thats still holding up cept for the new longer one I see a lot of those enclosed and don't like 'em. Miss the old 2 seater one. Neighbor has an OLD Wranger I mean post - WWII style Wrangler. He has a CJ. I believe to be exact its the CJ-5 but the old one from the 50's its all gray and I mean the old gray paint the original paint lol. Thing runs like a champ he rides it to and from work everyday. So crazy still has all the old gauges on it and everything. Though I know he put a lot of muscle and grease into getting it to run and maintaining it. Lots of elbow grease.

 

[cjd_1986]

See next post. Sorry guys wouldn't let me delete this one.

 

[cjd_1986]

I don't know if you saw this pic or not DJ, but I really like it. :thumbup:

That external pipe next to the driver door going upwards on the outside like a chimney. What the heck is that and what does it do? Is that a light of some sorts or some sort of a weird filter/intake?

 

[urban yan]

it's an air snorkel... just a different style from what
we're accustomed to see on north American XJs

how could you get one of those over here?

buy it in pieces from alexparts



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[rhino317]

the front end looks pretty dang cool. anyone got pics of the interior?

 

[97CountryXJ]

Quick info on the Jeep 2500 China model....

Since Jeep retooled in late 96 to the newer 97-01 bodystyle, the body dyes were put into storage, then either destroyed or sent to China. XJ's have been built there for a while, Jeep understood the need for a mid-size (for China) SUV and decided to reserect the "Cherokee" (Cherokee in other parts of the world is actually a Liberty) and named it the 2500. 96 older main body shell, 97-newer interior, obviously rewarmed front end. The A/C controls and interior door panels are pre-96 interior parts, reused. Minor outer body accent redesign, 2.5 4-banger, primarily 5-speed manuals with 4 or 2wd. There are a couple of "other" companies that build a lot less quality identicle model in China (imagine that, knockoffs) that are still called 2500's. China is left hand drive, Hong Kong is right hand drive. Both models exist there.
I have been following the 2500's since there inception in China and have wondered how easily it would be to import one into the US.
Resource information to check into
http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/02/26/get-yourself-a-jeep-2500-for-only-100000rmb/
http://www.thecarconnection.com/Car_Shows_and_Concept_Cars/China_Auto_Shows/2004_Beijing_Motor_Show_Part_II.S292.A7214.html
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/389361
You used to be able to access the Jeep China website and check out the 360 views of the vehicle. Cool stuff.

 

[BIGSLVRXJ]

Found a different ad for the 2500 than urban yan posted...

Also found the XJ one...gotta love those prices!

Still have no idea how to order though.

 

[urban yan]

Found a different ad for the 2500 than urban yan posted...
Still have no idea how to order though.

very cool.... it looks like they redesigned their website since my last visit. Do they have a number you can call about
placing an order? If not.. just drop them an email. If I still had my 90 laredo, I'd be on those tails ASAP.

the front end looks pretty dang cool. anyone got pics of the interior?

I did some poking around... here's what I found

and some more exterior shots

 

[ehall]

I heard China has stricter laws than the US when it comes to EPA standards

Al Gore lied to you. It's the other way around. The US has some of the strictest pollution laws on the planet.

You know, we sell our cars in China all day long (hello, Jeep in China?). How many Chinese cars do you see here? NONE because they can't meet our specs.

Having said all that, I imagine ONE could be brought over for use as a DD but you could not bring them over with the purpose to SELL because of the above.

 

[seanyb505]

I like those door handles....I think the hatch from the 97+ would look better.

 

[ehall]

Those pics really show it off

Dang I'd love to have that clip and some other parts

 

[seanyb505]

I like those door handles....I think the hatch from the 97+ would look better.

 

[urban yan]

Al Gore lied to you. It's the other way around. The US has some of the strictest pollution laws on the planet.

You know, we sell our cars in China all day long (hello, Jeep in China?). How many Chinese cars do you see here? NONE because they can't meet our specs.

Having said all that, I imagine ONE could be brought over for use as a DD but you could not bring them over with the purpose to SELL because of the above.

The Jeep2500 IS built in China (not imported from US), and it's only engine offerings were a 2.5L 4cly and a 2.7L diesel. There is hefty tax in China for cars with engines over a certain displacement (I can't recall the number BUT it's most definitely under 4.0L). The reason we don't see Chinese cars in North America isn't because of fuel economy.. it's because --for the most part-- their cars have the dubious distinction of folding up like a cheap accordion in the event of a car wreck. American made cars in China are a different story altogether. GMs Chinese Buick Park Avenue alone, for example, puts GMs entire North American Buick lineup to shame.


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[urban yan]

I like those door handles....I think the hatch from the 97+ would look better.

I prefer the 97+ hatch as well.

The 2500 has a real mish mash of parts. lol. It has the semi 97+ center dash with a pre96 hvac module. The hatch is pre96, and the seats feel the same. BUT than it has some really cool stuff we wish was on our XJs... like the aluminum/leather steering wheel, Electronic Brake Force Distribution, rear headrests, composite headlights, and really snazzy tail lights.

 

[ehall]

Many of the US cars sold in China are manufactured here, including Buicks

September 25, 2007

GM signs US$800 million-plus agreement to export vehicles and components to China

Washington, D.C. - General Motors Corporation and its Shanghai General Motors joint venture have signed a multi-year agreement, worth more than US$800 million, to export American-built Buick Enclave SUVs and other vehicles and components to China, beginning in 2008. The Enclave is built in Lansing, Michigan.

"Shanghai GM has become a leader in the production and sale of passenger cars in China, driven largely by the success of the Buick brand," says Ding Lei, Shanghai GM president. "These new Buick premium sport utility vehicles will strengthen our line-up and enable us to continue to meet the changing needs of our growing base of customers."

The Buick agreement is the second of two China export agreements signed by GM this year; in May, the company signed a deal to export US$700 million worth of Cadillacs and components to China from the U.S. The Enclave will be imported by Shanghai GM and sold through nearly 400 Buick dealerships across China. The company also sells the Park Avenue and LaCrosse premium sedans, Regal sedan, Excelle family, and GL8 and FirstLand executive wagons.

end of OT

 

[cjd_1986]

Al Gore lied to you. It's the other way around. The US has some of the strictest pollution laws on the planet.

You know, we sell our cars in China all day long (hello, Jeep in China?). How many Chinese cars do you see here? NONE because they can't meet our specs.

Having said all that, I imagine ONE could be brought over for use as a DD but you could not bring them over with the purpose to SELL because of the above.

I still hear that they have very strict laws in China because of the hugh population adv over us. And most cars made in China are crap by native Chinese manufacturers. So that excludes Jeep China since Jeep's origin is American. Most foreign cars like the euro cars are mini cars their tiny and have sometimes motorcycle type cc engines in them. Or like <1 or 2 lt engines. Nobody here would drive anything made in China that is why you don't see them here. The exception would be this Jeep! I'm sure if something didn't meat EPA standards you could get it made to meet the standards. It's like anything else with the Jeep just put some money into it! I say take that 2.5 out and put the 4 back in it lol.

p.s. Al Gore is full of crap anyway.

But like urban said there's basically a reason why that one add shows how much the 2500 was brand new and China and also showed the USD equiv the car was like $11.5k. Where when we bought ours here brand new it was much much higher than that. Like 20 something brand new or at least mid to high teens depending on yr, trim, options, etc. They build 'em way cheaper over there to be more affordable since a large part of their population is struggling. Cheaper parts, etc. They may use the same it could be maybe because nothing needs to be imported. Where even Jeep being based out of Ohio is far from being American made. Sure its assembled here but most the parts actually come from Canada and elsewhere. Funny in a recent study besides the F-150, Toyota (a foreign auto) is the most American made vehicles with not only assembly but parts coming from within the USA. But even imported stuff is cheap here look at those MazdaSpeed 3's. For the 24k u pay for all the options in it (22 stock) u get a hell of a fast car (not super fast like 14 second 1/4 mile) but otherwise the only competitors are the Evo and STI and those your paying like 30k range brand new. That's one thing I always loved about Jeeps is the price range is supurb for the quality of a vehicle you get. Plus it being that it is an American based company and not a foreign one. Sure u expect the foreign ones to keep quality up and cost down and its tough for an American made one to do so since most parts come from abroad or even the ones here with the hurting economy and such (laying off workers). They manage to keep the costs down. Maybe because they lay off the workers they lower the price since their not paying so many salaries. Though Jeep's have always been pretty cheap even when the economy was ok.

btw those pics are sexy!

 

[ehall]

I still hear that they have very strict laws in China

You heard wrong, sorry. We sell our cars there, not the other way around. We have no trouble meeting their lackadaisical emission requirements, but they cannot meet western emission and safety standards. That's the only reason you don't see Chinese versions of Yugo opening left and right.

read this autoweek article especially the last sentence:

“But right now the emissions criteria doesn’t meet US and European levels,” the worker said. “Getting those certifications is very expensive. Therefore, we don’t have a plan to develop these aspects right now.”

as for your comment that "They build 'em way cheaper over there to be more affordable" they build em way cheaper because they pay workers next to nothing compared to our costs

 

[urban yan]

Many of the US cars sold in China are manufactured here, including Buicks
end of OT

Maybe some cars are imported BUT NOT MANY. Why would GM pay a unionized American 30+bucks an hour when they could have the same car made in China at a fraction of the labor costs (and forgo freight charges at the same time). Secondly, China's communist government doesn't allow American companies to walk in with imported goods. They want partnerships with local companies (i.e. local jobs)

If you want more proof they build cars in China than there's this quote

General Motors debuted a hybrid variant of its Buick LaCrosse in Shanghai today at the inauguration of its Drive to Green strategy -- a program originating from Shanghai GM (GM's Chinese branch) that focuses on the production of green vehicles and environmentally responsible methods of building them.
Dubbed the Buick LaCrosse Eco-Hybrid, the premium sedan is Chinese-made and is the first mainstream hybrid model in its market segment. The LaCrosse Eco-Hybrid currently achieves approximately 28 mpg versus the non-hybrid model's 24 mpg, according to GM. The LaCrosse is currently Shanghai GM's flagship vehicle. An as-yet-unnamed future two-mode hybrid will be launched later boasting some 50 percent greater fuel economy than a standard gasoline-powered engine.

GM also announced that three new engines will see production in 2008 for the Chinese market, including a 1.2-liter S-TEC unit reportedly capable of over 38 mpg and a HFV6 3.6-liter SIDI dual mode direct injection engine that is said to produce 15 percent more horsepower and eight percent more lb-ft of torque than the previous version, while reducing fuel consumption by three percent. By 2012, Shanghai GM will produce 11 new, more fuel efficient engines, and GM's E-Flex drive and Fuel Cell E-Flex system are both expected to debut in China sometime after 2010.

Shanghai GM also has goals for its three Chinese assembly plants in the coming years, saying that by 2012, coal consumption should be reduced by 25 percent compared to 2007 levels, while wastewater volume will decrease by 21 percent and the availability of reclaimed water will double. The automaker has also set its sights on recycling 97 percent of its waste product, an increase of 15 percent over the current level.

 

[cjd_1986]

You heard wrong, sorry. We sell our cars there, not the other way around. We have no trouble meeting their lackadaisical emission requirements, but they cannot meet western emission and safety standards. That's the only reason you don't see Chinese versions of Yugo opening left and right.

read this autoweek article especially the last sentence:


as for your comment that "They build 'em way cheaper over there to be more affordable" they build em way cheaper because they pay workers next to nothing compared to our costs

Of course they run sweat shops there... They pay those guys nothing. What goes into making it cheaper as well is the lowered emissions standards. Not too much you have to govern on a country that has no standards. They prob take off the cat. j/k I know their not anywhere near us but they can't be too bad. And if they are Al Gore would have a field day with them. He could send his Terminator (Arnold) over there to show them what's up.