Is Obama Marxist?

sure, if it provides more social programs and provide very inexpensive higher education. Seems to be working well for sweden...

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Your ignorance cannot be corrected by Socialism.....know the truth, and it will make your free.

Here's something to help educate you on why Obama's Marxism will only hurt the US. It's called wisdom and experience. Not mine, but those with skills to run, say a state government, large corporation or even a country?
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"Barack Obama's saying that he's got this jobs creation program. As a businessman, I mean, I'm a small businessman. You've been a large businessman your whole life. Tell me the frothing at the mouth that people, just chomping at the bit to get that $3,000 that Barack Obama will give you for every new job created here in America. That's his job growth plan. Tell me how great that is for business."

"GOVERNOR ROMNEY: Well, I'm afraid that's a drop in the bucket compared to the economic risk you take in hiring additional employees, and people take that risk if they see a bright future. And if they're looking at higher taxes for their corporation, higher taxes for them individually, if they're looking at fees or penalties for not having a healthcare plan that Barack Obama finds acceptable and if also they are looking at new efforts to unionize small business through this card check program Barack Obama's in favor of, they're simply not going to be thinking about growing jobs here. I listened this morning to a CEO of a major employer. I won't mention his name but a very large employer. He employs over 100,000 people. And he said, look, you know, Barack Obama's policies will cause us to build plants in places other than the U.S., and it is a job-killing program. We've got to support a job program like John McCain's. John McCain is talking about cutting taxes on corporations, it immediately sounds horrible to people because of the perversion that we've allowed to happen, you know, with our press and everything else, where corporations are evil, where rich people are evil. Explain, if you will, to you know, the average person that is struggling, busting their butt. Why a corporation getting a giant tax cut, why that makes a difference in creating jobs here in America as opposed to other countries.
GOVERNOR ROMNEY: Well, the simple fact is that corporations can decide where they are going to reside, where they are going to do their business. And they can be here, they can be in Ireland, they can be in Canada, they can be anywhere they want in the world and right now America and Japan have the two highest corporate tax rates in the world and so as businesses think about locating a new facility or even moving their corporate headquarters, they are free to go wherever they want. They are not like U.S. citizens that don't have citizenship in a place like Hong Kong or China or Japan. They can go wherever they want. And so if you have high taxes, high corporate taxes, you cause businesses to go somewhere else. It's as simple as that. In Ireland, for instance, the European Union, they said, you know what, we're going to have the lowest tax rates. And sure enough businesses flocked to Ireland. They created scores of new jobs. People had high paying jobs. It was good for the people and it was good for the government as well because they got taxes from all the people paying income taxes. The answer is always create growth, create jobs. A job is so much more of an economic benefit than is a check from government. "

Here's another snippet, since you desire inexpensive education......this one's even free.



"We are joined by Barack Obama who is Illinois senator from the 13th district and a senior lecturer from the University of Chicago. OBAMA: You know, if you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movements and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to vest formal rights in previously dispossessed peoples so that I would now have the right to vote, I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order and as long as I could pay for it, I'd be okay, but the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society. And to that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren court, it wasn't that radical. It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as it's been interpreted and Warren interpreted it in the same way that generally is a charter of negative liberties.

It says what the federal government can't do to you but it doesn't say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf. It was because the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change. And in some ways we still suffer from that."
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Dude, Obama is talking about repairations for slavery, removing our Constitutional rights by order of the Supreme Court, under the guise of "negative liberties"?

Negative liberties is an attempt to classify one's ability or inability to do something that they want to do, because of a force or restriction that they see beyond thier control. Obama is using the term "negative liberties" in reference to the poor, ignorant and socially dependant, (multi-generational welfare recipients) who are viewed as unable to have the same liberties (called postive liberties by Socialists) as those who have wealth, are educated, employed and self-sufficient.

Obama's plan is to level the field, if you will, by taking from the "rich" (he gets to make this definition) and giving to the "poor", thus balancing liberties, based on his theory.

It's call Socialism folks, any other description is just PC for Socialism. Political Correctness IS cultural Marxism.

Got many companies flocking to Sweden because of their Socialized ecomomy? Simple math........ big business pays big taxes to help fund programs......when big businesses leave due to higher corp. taxes, do those government programs that their taxes were paying for just go away?
The expense of the programs and those individuals that they support get transfered to the working class, the Middle Class that Obama keeps saying is getting a tax cut.

I learned a long time ago to know bullcrap when I see it.......Socialism created PC, and we now have bullcrap being served to us for dinner and we're told to eat up, it's good for us.

McCain/Palin is our best option, then we can regroup for 2012.

If Obama gets in the White House, with a Socialist-leaning Congress, we may not have the freedom to vote by 2012.
 
sure, if it provides more social programs and provide very inexpensive higher education. Seems to be working well for sweden...

You need to take a closer look at Sweden & it's history... I lived there as an exchange student for a full school year in 1990 - 1991. I lived in a suburb just outside Stockholm.
 
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You are correct. I have been misinformed. Sweden is not a good example. :D

So what is a good example?

Or, more to my point, what is it that you feel our federal government does well, that you hold as a model to justify its expansion?

Or, do you really want the people who run the post office to run your hospitals?

Robert
 
:wstupid:
Your ignorance cannot be corrected by Socialism.....know the truth, and it will make your free.

Here's something to help educate you on why Obama's Marxism will only hurt the US. It's called wisdom and experience. Not mine, but those with skills to run, say a state government, large corporation or even a country?
**************************************************************
"Barack Obama's saying that he's got this jobs creation program. As a businessman, I mean, I'm a small businessman. You've been a large businessman your whole life. Tell me the frothing at the mouth that people, just chomping at the bit to get that $3,000 that Barack Obama will give you for every new job created here in America. That's his job growth plan. Tell me how great that is for business."

"GOVERNOR ROMNEY: Well, I'm afraid that's a drop in the bucket compared to the economic risk you take in hiring additional employees, and people take that risk if they see a bright future. And if they're looking at higher taxes for their corporation, higher taxes for them individually, if they're looking at fees or penalties for not having a healthcare plan that Barack Obama finds acceptable and if also they are looking at new efforts to unionize small business through this card check program Barack Obama's in favor of, they're simply not going to be thinking about growing jobs here. I listened this morning to a CEO of a major employer. I won't mention his name but a very large employer. He employs over 100,000 people. And he said, look, you know, Barack Obama's policies will cause us to build plants in places other than the U.S., and it is a job-killing program. We've got to support a job program like John McCain's. John McCain is talking about cutting taxes on corporations, it immediately sounds horrible to people because of the perversion that we've allowed to happen, you know, with our press and everything else, where corporations are evil, where rich people are evil. Explain, if you will, to you know, the average person that is struggling, busting their butt. Why a corporation getting a giant tax cut, why that makes a difference in creating jobs here in America as opposed to other countries.
GOVERNOR ROMNEY: Well, the simple fact is that corporations can decide where they are going to reside, where they are going to do their business. And they can be here, they can be in Ireland, they can be in Canada, they can be anywhere they want in the world and right now America and Japan have the two highest corporate tax rates in the world and so as businesses think about locating a new facility or even moving their corporate headquarters, they are free to go wherever they want. They are not like U.S. citizens that don't have citizenship in a place like Hong Kong or China or Japan. They can go wherever they want. And so if you have high taxes, high corporate taxes, you cause businesses to go somewhere else. It's as simple as that. In Ireland, for instance, the European Union, they said, you know what, we're going to have the lowest tax rates. And sure enough businesses flocked to Ireland. They created scores of new jobs. People had high paying jobs. It was good for the people and it was good for the government as well because they got taxes from all the people paying income taxes. The answer is always create growth, create jobs. A job is so much more of an economic benefit than is a check from government. "

Here's another snippet, since you desire inexpensive education......this one's even free.



"We are joined by Barack Obama who is Illinois senator from the 13th district and a senior lecturer from the University of Chicago. OBAMA: You know, if you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movements and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to vest formal rights in previously dispossessed peoples so that I would now have the right to vote, I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order and as long as I could pay for it, I'd be okay, but the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society. And to that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren court, it wasn't that radical. It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as it's been interpreted and Warren interpreted it in the same way that generally is a charter of negative liberties.

It says what the federal government can't do to you but it doesn't say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf. It was because the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change. And in some ways we still suffer from that."
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Dude, Obama is talking about repairations for slavery, removing our Constitutional rights by order of the Supreme Court, under the guise of "negative liberties"?

Negative liberties is an attempt to classify one's ability or inability to do something that they want to do, because of a force or restriction that they see beyond thier control. Obama is using the term "negative liberties" in reference to the poor, ignorant and socially dependant, (multi-generational welfare recipients) who are viewed as unable to have the same liberties (called postive liberties by Socialists) as those who have wealth, are educated, employed and self-sufficient.

Obama's plan is to level the field, if you will, by taking from the "rich" (he gets to make this definition) and giving to the "poor", thus balancing liberties, based on his theory.

It's call Socialism folks, any other description is just PC for Socialism. Political Correctness IS cultural Marxism.

Got many companies flocking to Sweden because of their Socialized ecomomy? Simple math........ big business pays big taxes to help fund programs......when big businesses leave due to higher corp. taxes, do those government programs that their taxes were paying for just go away?
The expense of the programs and those individuals that they support get transfered to the working class, the Middle Class that Obama keeps saying is getting a tax cut.

I learned a long time ago to know bullcrap when I see it.......Socialism created PC, and we now have bullcrap being served to us for dinner and we're told to eat up, it's good for us.

McCain/Palin is our best option, then we can regroup for 2012.

If Obama gets in the White House, with a Socialist-leaning Congress, we may not have the freedom to vote by 2012.

Well said, someone else that can see through Obama's Bull Shit!!:peace:
 
Oh don't dispute because of the fact that it's Fox News....

They're pretty much the only media group who isn't serving up Obama/Biden as the greatest thing since...well, ever.

It's not like they're making shit up - don't get pissed because they're not afraid to point out the facts/obvious that everyone else overlooks....
 
im not pissed because they are bashing obama, they are to the right, he is to the left. It is the fact that they are "hypnotizing" with their words, just the way Obama does in his speeches.

:D
 
he's doing what it takes to win...

and i by no means am defending him. They both have idiotic and childish campaigning techniques...
 
especially with fine intelligent people like sean hannity...


As opposed to a genius like Keith Olbermann?

He makes me want to :banghead::gonnablow:bs::puke::doh:
 
What would YOU do if you lived in the USA as a millionaire and Obama went through and taxed you more? you would probably move! you can! easily, you are a millionaire...

So, seeing as the top 1% of the USA pays more than half of our taxes as it is (not to mention stimulating our economy and investing) sound like a good plan to back?

Wake up people, Obama has spent more than $600,000,000 already telling you he will tax the rich?!!?

You are not racist if you pick McCain, you are AMERICAN
 
Who was it that said Obama was a good candidate? lol
Even some of the Democrats are voting Republican this time
 
Oh don't dispute because of the fact that it's Fox News....

They're pretty much the only media group who isn't serving up Obama/Biden as the greatest thing since...well, ever.

It's not like they're making shit up - don't get pissed because they're not afraid to point out the facts/obvious that everyone else overlooks....


So it's OK for someone on the right to bash news sources such as calling CNN Communist News Network, but someone to the left can't throw the BS flag on FOX?

Drink some more kool-aid. FOX is America's version of Al-Jazeera. Look at more than one source, try checking out BBC Hong-Kong for example. They really don't have a dog in this fight, other than the U.S. consumerism (sic).

i am not defending Senator Obama, I'm not against Senator McCain, I just get disappointed in all the bashing. (as I bash you, how idiotic) Try speaking to Senator McCains positive rather than getting on here and bashing Senator Obama all the time. Heck just a year ago all the Republicans I work with, and being in the military that's quite a few, were not supporting and even bashing McCain. Calling Senator McCain a Democrat in Republican clothing.

Thankfully only 7 more days of this BS left.
 
So it's OK for someone on the right to bash news sources such as calling CNN Communist News Network, but someone to the left can't throw the BS flag on FOX?

Drink some more kool-aid. FOX is America's version of Al-Jazeera. Look at more than one source, try checking out BBC Hong-Kong for example. They really don't have a dog in this fight, other than the U.S. consumerism (sic).

i am not defending Senator Obama, I'm not against Senator McCain, I just get disappointed in all the bashing. (as I bash you, how idiotic) Try speaking to Senator McCains positive rather than getting on here and bashing Senator Obama all the time. Heck just a year ago all the Republicans I work with, and being in the military that's quite a few, were not supporting and even bashing McCain. Calling Senator McCain a Democrat in Republican clothing.

Thankfully only 7 more days of this BS left.
Obama is ANTI-CONSTITUTION, he should be bashed by any means
 
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