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Why/how the hell do you know this stuff?
I tinker with damn near everything I can get my hands on. I've actually got most of the parts to build a generator sitting in my basement right now, picked up a MecceAlte 15kw constant 18kw surge 4-pole genny head, a 100 amp good brand ATS with load shedding and remote management capabilities, and I've got the old 4.0L out of my MJ and the other one out of my 98 sitting here waiting to be gone over and turned into a generator motor with a 94XJ wiring harness + ECU. Almost all non belt driven (ie single bearing style) generator heads use a J609 standardized taper* to connect to the crank of the motor so that they use the motor's main bearing as one of their bearings, while belt driven units have more bearings.

* true to form, there are at least 3 separate almost-but-not-quite-the-same versions of the J609 standard, as I recall they are named something like version I, version II, a, and b. As it's been said - "the great thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from."

I've been trying to find the time for the last month to fix a modem issue, and considering that a service is being discontinued on Sept. 1, I've been working on it since yesterday at noon. Great fun working on RS232 communications and modems that were old 10 years ago.
At least you don't have any current loop RS232 left, right? :gee: I'm pretty sure that's extinct in all but the most dirty, heavy duty industrial backwaters.

- Ken "can I get a hand for miles of wire, optocouplers, and battery banks?" Stein
 
Don't recall ever touching a current loop RS232, that's all been voltage-ground stuff. Or are you referring to RS422/RS423 type stuff?

I got really spoiled in a previous job, I'd have borrowed a full protocol analyzer and hooked it up inline to figure out just what was happening here. I'd have been done in minutes.
 
I've been trying to find the time for the last month to fix a modem issue, and considering that a service is being discontinued on Sept. 1, I've been working on it since yesterday at noon. Great fun working on RS232 communications and modems that were old 10 years ago.

What's to know ;) RS232 is like riding a bicycle, that sometimes has the pedals on the handlebars, sometimes in the normal position, and sometimes only goes when you apply the brake :D
 
I actually had to figure out how to make a device that took 7e2 RS232 (yeah, 7 data bits, even parity, 2 stop bits... wtf!) work a while ago. No documentation. Figuring out what the hell was going on was interesting and involved an oscilloscope.

Don't recall ever touching a current loop RS232, that's all been voltage-ground stuff. Or are you referring to RS422/RS423 type stuff?

I got really spoiled in a previous job, I'd have borrowed a full protocol analyzer and hooked it up inline to figure out just what was happening here. I'd have been done in minutes.
current loop is some real prehistoric stuff, hell I think its obsolescence predates my birth by at least a decade. Basically current over x milliamps (iirc, 16 or 20mA) was considered a mark, while no current was considered a space. 2 wires for send, 2 for receive, no ground required. With good 7500v optoisolators at each end you could achieve basically any ground imbalance you needed, but I don't believe anyone ever really used it past about 4800 baud. Need to add a few miles to your serial data link? OK, add a few miles of cable, doesn't matter if it's twisted pair or shielded, now stack more batteries in your loop supply till you hit 16mA Mark current again. Done.

RS423/485 is different iirc, isn't that differential signaling RS232 basically, with one also adding multi-device operation?
 
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My jeep tried to kill me last night after leaving Wheelers house...
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I think if I were leaving Wheeler's house, I may have the sheriff's dept telling me I tried to kill my Jeep...:cheers:

Well, depends on what time I'm leaving, I guess.:rolleyes:
 
I actually had to figure out how to make a device that took 7e2 RS232 (yeah, 6 data bits, even parity, 2 stop bits... wtf!) work a while ago. No documentation. Figuring out what the hell was going on was interesting and involved an oscilloscope.


current loop is some real prehistoric stuff, hell I think its obsolescence predates my birth by at least a decade. Basically current over x milliamps (iirc, 16 or 20mA) was considered a mark, while no current was considered a space. 2 wires for send, 2 for receive, no ground required. With good 7500v optoisolators at each end you could achieve basically any ground imbalance you needed, but I don't believe anyone ever really used it past about 4800 baud. Need to add a few miles to your serial data link? OK, add a few miles of cable, doesn't matter if it's twisted pair or shielded, now stack more batteries in your loop supply till you hit 16mA Mark current again. Done.

RS423/485 is different iirc, isn't that differential signaling RS232 basically, with one also adding multi-device operation?
you just hurt my brain with all the nerdyness. Can't we go back to talking bout Jeeps, beer, guns or boobies, something.
 
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Was looking forward to getting it a little muddy on Saturday. The local dirt track (Terre Haute Action Track) is having a race and if you are one of the first 10 4wd's to show up, you get two pit passes and get to drive on the track to pack it in. I haven't been able to attend a race all year due to other commitments. Of course the remnants Isaac is supposed to come through this area right around then.
 
Was looking forward to getting it a little muddy on Saturday. The local dirt track (Terre Haute Action Track) is having a race and if you are one of the first 10 4wd's to show up, you get two pit passes and get to drive on the track to pack it in. I haven't been able to attend a race all year due to other commitments. Of course the remnants Isaac is supposed to come through this area right around then.
I'd go for it, I have never broken anything in mud or snow. Dry pavement kicks my a$$ all the time.
 
I have broken my Crusty's track bar twice. all while driving on pavement, never ever broke anything out playing in the mud or snow. I like the the double shear bracket, but can't decide what company to get a new track bar from.
 
If the sky isn't falling, I am doing it. I need to put on a second coat of wax so the mud washes off easily though (more clay mud then mud). I just have this feeling that Isaac is going to win the race over any racer.
 
I haven't had a watch since they started putting the time on cell phones...

mac 'yes I had cell phones before they had time on them' gyvr
 
I actually had to figure out how to make a device that took 7e2 RS232 (yeah, 7 data bits, even parity, 2 stop bits... wtf!) work a while ago. No documentation. Figuring out what the hell was going on was interesting and involved an oscilloscope.


current loop is some real prehistoric stuff, hell I think its obsolescence predates my birth by at least a decade. Basically current over x milliamps (iirc, 16 or 20mA) was considered a mark, while no current was considered a space. 2 wires for send, 2 for receive, no ground required. With good 7500v optoisolators at each end you could achieve basically any ground imbalance you needed, but I don't believe anyone ever really used it past about 4800 baud. Need to add a few miles to your serial data link? OK, add a few miles of cable, doesn't matter if it's twisted pair or shielded, now stack more batteries in your loop supply till you hit 16mA Mark current again. Done.

RS423/485 is different iirc, isn't that differential signaling RS232 basically, with one also adding multi-device operation?


I'm not reading all that......my brain will be off in a corner rocking back and forth saying "here kitty, kitty" for 9 hours If I do! :D
 
If the sky isn't falling, I am doing it. I need to put on a second coat of wax so the mud washes off easily though (more clay mud then mud). I just have this feeling that Isaac is going to win the race over any racer.

Clay is your worst nightmare when it comes to mud. If you plan on taking a dip in that stuff, make sure you wash out your brakes REALLY good or you will be replacing them in two days. Mud is fun, clay is NOT.
 
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