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Sweet!! Looks like a park I skated in nc
where at in NC?

but its not diezelszzzzz!!!!111!!11!!!eleven!!

Exactly! I DONT need a diesel or 3/4 ton. I will tow a few times a year. And no more than an xj. A 2/2 ton Gasser is cheaper to buy, insure, and fix.

I like diesels cuz they're cool lol. I will own one someday when my finances are a bit different.
2/2 = 1/1 = 1

i are good at maths. :D

:rof:

I was thinking a 9/16 ton would be the ultimate lol
i LOLed.

Exactly. I live 3 miles from work. And haul nothing heavier than a xj. I have a payment on this Gasser for 6 months. Then be payment free again. I can't justify 300 plus a month payment to be kool!
its not your toys you got to worry about. its your buddies that say, "hey, can i borrow your truck? i got to move this thing..."

No one is going to touch this?

mac 'me either' gyvr
no one ever wants to touch your thing? thats unfortunate.
(best i got at 5am after working 12 hours... Kman's was too easy. and i realized i quoted his ass enough in this post)
 
Another one bites the dust!!

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Exactly! I DONT need a diesel or 3/4 ton. I will tow a few times a year. And no more than an xj. A 2/2 ton Gasser is cheaper to buy, insure, and fix.

I like diesels cuz they're cool lol. I will own one someday when my finances are a bit different.

I think my goal is to eventually have owned each of the Big 3 diesel pickups, I'm not very brand loyal... I am probably taking a look at an 06 Cummins/6spd truck tonight.

Anyway, I had a 96 1/2 ton Ram for a while, it needed some work when I got it. It would want to stay in 2nd gear unless you did some throttle tricks to convince it to go into 3rd. I read that adjusting the bands would fix it, but it was a short term truck for me so I just put up with it. Nonetheless I hauled 7 cars about 30-40 miles each way when I was moving, and it never got any worse. I hauled everything from a stock XJ up to a FS Bronco. I was hard on it. My only complaint was that it didn't have a brake controller (yes I know, save the lecturing) so I had some light-goes-red, knuckles-go-white experiences.

Otherwise, it definitely had the power to move it, it just needed a little more braking assistance. WD hitch and a good proportional brake controller like the Prodigy P3 or similar and I would have had no worries. It was not much on mileage, I had a fluke 18mpg unloaded once, but typically I was around 15mpg, and 10mpg when pulling something.

Nothing wrong with a 1/2 ton, as long as you don't have an armored truck 7000# XJ, and you set it up right. Now personally I wouldn't do it again, it's too convenient to just throw stuff on the trailer and not worry about tongue weight or weight distribution, just hook up and go. But I see the merits of using a 1/2 ton so you still have a reasonable DD, and as already mentioned, repairs on a diesel cost an awful lot more. Just the little stuff like doing an oil change (3.5 gallons of oil @ $13/gal plus a $15 filter), or a coolant flush (8 gallons of coolant plus the anti-cavitation additive) adds up real quick.
 
I've had the 3/4 ton diesel with the 32 gallon tank and the 150 dollar fill ups. And it does suck. Towing is no comparison between a 1/2 ton and a 3/4 ton diesel. With my 18 ft gooseneck and XJ on the back I could stay at 75 mph no problem in the diesel. Now with the 1/2 ton Ram I can do the speedlimit.

For me the choice was easy, sell the older diesel truck that had a 300 payment, and needed repair after repair and buy a brand new 1/2 ton for 100 more a month, warranty for 5 years, decent fuel mileage and not have to pay the extra money for diesel.

I don't tow very often, maybe once a month (more when i towed boats at the marina). And I am glad i switched.

bm 'looking into 2014 Ram 3500s already' yohn
 
I think my goal is to eventually have owned each of the Big 3 diesel pickups, I'm not very brand loyal... I am probably taking a look at an 06 Cummins/6spd truck tonight.

Anyway, I had a 96 1/2 ton Ram for a while, it needed some work when I got it. It would want to stay in 2nd gear unless you did some throttle tricks to convince it to go into 3rd. I read that adjusting the bands would fix it, but it was a short term truck for me so I just put up with it. Nonetheless I hauled 7 cars about 30-40 miles each way when I was moving, and it never got any worse. I hauled everything from a stock XJ up to a FS Bronco. I was hard on it. My only complaint was that it didn't have a brake controller (yes I know, save the lecturing) so I had some light-goes-red, knuckles-go-white experiences.

Otherwise, it definitely had the power to move it, it just needed a little more braking assistance. WD hitch and a good proportional brake controller like the Prodigy P3 or similar and I would have had no worries. It was not much on mileage, I had a fluke 18mpg unloaded once, but typically I was around 15mpg, and 10mpg when pulling something.

Nothing wrong with a 1/2 ton, as long as you don't have an armored truck 7000# XJ, and you set it up right. Now personally I wouldn't do it again, it's too convenient to just throw stuff on the trailer and not worry about tongue weight or weight distribution, just hook up and go. But I see the merits of using a 1/2 ton so you still have a reasonable DD, and as already mentioned, repairs on a diesel cost an awful lot more. Just the little stuff like doing an oil change (3.5 gallons of oil @ $13/gal plus a $15 filter), or a coolant flush (8 gallons of coolant plus the anti-cavitation additive) adds up real quick.

I've had the 3/4 ton diesel with the 32 gallon tank and the 150 dollar fill ups. And it does suck. Towing is no comparison between a 1/2 ton and a 3/4 ton diesel. With my 18 ft gooseneck and XJ on the back I could stay at 75 mph no problem in the diesel. Now with the 1/2 ton Ram I can do the speedlimit.

For me the choice was easy, sell the older diesel truck that had a 300 payment, and needed repair after repair and buy a brand new 1/2 ton for 100 more a month, warranty for 5 years, decent fuel mileage and not have to pay the extra money for diesel.

I don't tow very often, maybe once a month (more when i towed boats at the marina). And I am glad i switched.

bm 'looking into 2014 Ram 3500s already' yohn

All of this is what is making my decision towards a half ton. I dont have a driveway with 794 vehicles in it so i wont to as much as you do goslowgetstuck. LOL

I haven't done the diesel thing buy i guarantee that's were I'd end up Yohn.
 
It was VERY close to pushing them apart. I have had that happen once before and it took almost an entire day to get it on a trailer.

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Looks about like what happened to me last fall... I managed to push them back together on the trail, got strapped out (very carefully), drove it a few miles (very gingerly) back to the campground, then spent that evening changing out balljoints on a 30 with an HF press and a BFH while everyone else drank.

Now I carry spare balljoints :gee:
 
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