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[macgyvr]

also, looked at a 46 foot enclosed today...

bad part, it has triple 5200 axles...wtf, why don't they put big axles on these trailers...

mac 'they wanted more than i wanted to pay for it too' gyvr

 

[Big Hank]

code was for coils...which we unplugged while checking to see if the cylinder appeared to be firing...

i also found two wet spark plugs.

mac 'what next' gyvr

What happened that made you pull the original engine to start with?

Can you move the coil packs around and see if the idle changes? Coil pack codes usually have the exact coil pack number as part of the code...

Are the wet plugs on the cylinders with the lowest compression?

Read somewhere that both banks of coil packs are grounded on the back coil pack, are both these coil packs properly grounded?

Does it idle fine but misfire under load?(sorry haven't been following the posts)

Big 'going to be something minor' Hank

 

[macgyvr]

What happened that made you pull the original engine to start with?

Can you move the coil packs around and see if the idle changes? Coil pack codes usually have the exact coil pack number as part of the code...

Are the wet plugs on the cylinders with the lowest compression?

Read somewhere that both banks of coil packs are grounded on the back coil pack, are both these coil packs properly grounded?

Does it idle fine but misfire under load?(sorry haven't been following the posts)

Big 'going to be something minor' Hank

the original motor had a spun bearing and rod knocking.

not the lowest compression cylinders. number 2 and number 4 on the drivers side. everything appears to be grounded properly from the coil packs to the motor to body grounds.

i may switch coil packs around and see if anything happens, however, its not throwing any codes for the coils being bad. the code that was thrown was us pulling the wires off the coils as it was running to see if the motor changed when it dropped a cylinder. all coils worked with the motor was pulled, i don't see two going bad while swapping a motor out.

it doesn't idle right. sounds like its blowing air back through the intake.

we think that they either installed the wrong year cam pickup wheel on the passengers side or they set the timing wrong. either way that was the point of paying him 2100 bucks to build us a reman motor so we wouldn't have to set the timing. either way the fix for both is to tear down the entire front of the motor again...

i'm going to call him with compression numbers tomorrow and see if he has any words of wisdom.

mac 'not easy fix' gyvr

 

[Big Hank]

the original motor had a spun bearing and rod knocking.

not the lowest compression cylinders. number 2 and number 4 on the drivers side. everything appears to be grounded properly from the coil packs to the motor to body grounds.

i may switch coil packs around and see if anything happens, however, its not throwing any codes for the coils being bad. the code that was thrown was us pulling the wires off the coils as it was running to see if the motor changed when it dropped a cylinder. all coils worked with the motor was pulled, i don't see two going bad while swapping a motor out.

it doesn't idle right. sounds like its blowing air back through the intake.

we think that they either installed the wrong year cam pickup wheel on the passengers side or they set the timing wrong. either way that was the point of paying him 2100 bucks to build us a reman motor so we wouldn't have to set the timing. either way the fix for both is to tear down the entire front of the motor again...

i'm going to call him with compression numbers tomorrow and see if he has any words of wisdom.

mac 'not easy fix' gyvr

You may disconnect the auto shutdown relay so it wont fire, then crank it with your hand in front of the intake.. just to give you peace of mind that it's not blowing back out the intake..... or it may blow back.

Big 'good luck' Hank

 

[kastein]

Tried goosing the throttle yet?

That's how I discovered that I had a blown head gasket in my 98 that connected #3 and #4, I got some pretty awesome chugging and popping from the intake when I goosed it. And pulling the connectors off the #3 and #4 fuel injectors resulted in no change.

 

[Big Hank]

the original motor had a spun bearing and rod knocking.

not the lowest compression cylinders. number 2 and number 4 on the drivers side. everything appears to be grounded properly from the coil packs to the motor to body grounds.

i may switch coil packs around and see if anything happens, however, its not throwing any codes for the coils being bad. the code that was thrown was us pulling the wires off the coils as it was running to see if the motor changed when it dropped a cylinder. all coils worked with the motor was pulled, i don't see two going bad while swapping a motor out.

it doesn't idle right. sounds like its blowing air back through the intake.

we think that they either installed the wrong year cam pickup wheel on the passengers side or they set the timing wrong. either way that was the point of paying him 2100 bucks to build us a reman motor so we wouldn't have to set the timing. either way the fix for both is to tear down the entire front of the motor again...

i'm going to call him with compression numbers tomorrow and see if he has any words of wisdom.

mac 'not easy fix' gyvr

I think you've mentioned this, but I'm not 100% sure. 16, 31, 32 tooth toner ring on the crank?

Big 'tired' Hank

 

[macgyvr]

16 on cam

no clue on crank

mac '15 on later models' gyvr

 

[Big Hank]

16 on cam

no clue on crank

mac '15 on later models' gyvr

Just generated that question from looking up 4.7's on ATK's website. Seems like their primary question is crank tooth related.

 

[macgyvr]

In researching years that would work I remember a question about tooth count, but I dont know if it was crank or cam...

I just expected the motor to be the correct one for this truck...

mac 'assumed too much' gyvr

 

[poorboy87]

The front covers arent that bad to pull off. pull it and check the timing marks.

 

[Molly Ann]

Big dumb load of the day

 

[87manche]

I'd imagine it has the right tone wheel or it would be so far out of whack it wouldn't run at all, but maybe not.

I know nothing of DOHC v8s. Sounds like hanks got you taken care of.

I'd still put it on a trailer and take it to the dealer. They've got the equipment to properly diagnose your timing issues. They can probably diagnose the cam wheely things without taking apart the front of the motor. If you had access to an o scope I could tell you how to do it, but you probably don't.

87 'electronic gibberish' manche

 

[BRIANHO13]

If you had access to an o scope I could tell you how to do it, but you probably don't.

87 'electronic gibberish' manche

I have an o scope but only use it on my wife.

 

[ChiXJeff]

Just general frustrations.

Some days, it seems like I should go back to bed and start over. Suffice it to say that it's gonna be a long day. At the moment, I'm waiting on a replacement mainboard for a downed server. In 2 years, I'm looking at almost a 10% failure rate on this model.

 

[kastein]

Re: Just general frustrations.

Some days, it seems like I should go back to bed and start over. Suffice it to say that it's gonna be a long day. At the moment, I'm waiting on a replacement mainboard for a downed server. In 2 years, I'm looking at almost a 10% failure rate on this model.

dl580? dl530? I forget which but I've been hearing about a lot of failures on them.

 

[macgyvr]

The front covers arent that bad to pull off. pull it and check the timing marks.

It is when it should be running correctly.

I'd imagine it has the right tone wheel or it would be so far out of whack it wouldn't run at all, but maybe not.

I know nothing of DOHC v8s. Sounds like hanks got you taken care of.

I'd still put it on a trailer and take it to the dealer. They've got the equipment to properly diagnose your timing issues. They can probably diagnose the cam wheely things without taking apart the front of the motor. If you had access to an o scope I could tell you how to do it, but you probably don't.

87 'electronic gibberish' manche

I just got up, gonna call the clown and see if the compression readings make anything any different than it was...but I'm thinking dealer. My buddy thinks we should take the valve cover off on the pass side and count windows on the cam pickup...I'm not doing anything unless I take it somewhere til after Tgiving cause the family Tgiving is in my garage...

I thought a the wrong count tone wheel would cause a check engine light too...

mac 'its sad' gyvr

 

[ChiXJeff]

Re: Just general frustrations.

dl580? dl530? I forget which but I've been hearing about a lot of failures on them.

bl460 G6. The x86 line is not known for extraordinary reliability, like it's big brethren in the PA-RISC & Itanic lines.

 

[kastein]

Re: Just general frustrations.

bl460 G6. The x86 line is not known for extraordinary reliability, like it's big brethren in the PA-RISC & Itanic lines.

ahh damn. shoulda got the itanium edition

(I don't even work for them anymore, but they are pretty awesome chips if you can get past the price tag)

 

[ChiXJeff]

Re: Just general frustrations.

ahh damn. shoulda got the itanium edition

(I don't even work for them anymore, but they are pretty awesome chips if you can get past the price tag)

Nope. For all intents & purposes, we've bought our last Itanium systems. With Oracle's announcement about stopping development on the Itanium platform, that's the end of the road for them here. Anything that will running Oracle will be on an x86 platform running Oracle Linux.

Please note that present deponent is not making any endorsements for or against said platform......

Actually, the local sales guy has been making a number of sales to former Sun shops who aren't tied to the Oracle behemoth, they're abandoning ship even on major servers that aren't fully depreciated yet.

 

[RedHeep]

I just cancelled my order for a 2012 Wide Glide through the military exchange. The local dealership has a 2008 Road King for a better price with only 6000 miles. It's what I really wanted anyways.

It doesn't help that the sales lady I've been working with is incompetent.

red 'I shouldn't be forcing you to sell me a motorcycle' heep