Important

[seanR]

Re: Re: Important

Dinner is bogo margaritas...might as well start somewhere...

mac 'four days of being drunk' gyvr

Slots o fun right next to Circus Circus has or used to have real good drink prices. Fill you pockets good!

I love Las Vegas, but I haven't been there in 10 years.

 

[macgyvr]

Slots was the only place I gambled last time I was here...

mac 'not here to gamble' gyvr

 

[Big Hank]

Slots was the only place I gambled last time I was here...

mac 'not here to gamble' gyvr

If you decided to go to Vegas....you decided to gamble....

Big 'party' Hank

 

[shortxjdoug]

The view from the ghostbar at night rocks.....it's even better completely hammered

Short"too much party"xjdoug

 

[SAMSET]

some pics of my demo that is STILL not finished

1st it turns out that my house is made up of plaster laid on top of drywall


this makes it very difficult to remove if you didn't know 1st.
had to use a grinder with a diamond blade.


even with the door closed, window open, and fan in window sucking it out, the entire house still got dusty


but eventually i got it all out of the way


not my opinion of great skill in the electrical department. some wire is visible.


they sure to make pulling up tile flooring look easy on the DIY channel
but this took e a half hour


then i decided to put the boss on the job


it sucks doing this when you only have a 1 bathroom house, and 5month old baby and a 10 hour shift of work. just saying.



SAM'have to go to the gym to shower....guess that's motivating'SET

 

[macgyvr]

Slots o fun right next to Circus Circus has or used to have real good drink prices. Fill you pockets good!

I love Las Vegas, but I haven't been there in 10 years.

mac 'taken just for Sean' gyvr

 

[seanR]

Sweet.
Do they still have the $1.50 Heinekens?
One in each hand, one each pocket, out the door I go.
Drinkng on the street, who'd a thunk it?

 

[kastein]

Sam, that looks like modern metal lath and plaster to me. Probably better in a bathroom with the right plaster since it's water resistant, cementboard would be the other good option, or greenboard.

And yeah, that electrical needs to be redone while you have the walls down, hanging splices are a hazard and splices in boxes that aren't accessible without opening the wall are illegal. Not sure how you should go about fixing that, probably pull cable from somewhere where you can put a j-box all the way to the outlet/switch/light it's feeding.

 

[GoSlowGetStuck]

Rule #1 of house repair... don't. Otherwise things just get worse the deeper you go.

Sam, I would tear out enough to get the old wire free, and pull down fresh Romex from the attic. Tie it on to the old wire to pull it through if necessary. Get all your wiring sorted out downstairs, then go to the attic, nail a junction box to a truss and splice it into the existing wiring up there. Remember if you have a 20 amp breaker, you need 12 gauge Romex (generally yellow jacketed, but not always). Or likewise, if any part of the circuit uses 14 gauge, you need to downsize to a 15 amp breaker.

If you are lucky and that wiring is behind a mirror, you could put a junction box there with a blank wall plate and be OK as well. I am not an electrician, and this is not professional advice

I love electrical stuff, but I sure do hate people sometimes.

 

[XJosh95]

Rule #1 of house repair... don't. Otherwise things just get worse the deeper you go.

Sam, I would tear out enough to get the old wire free, and pull down fresh Romex from the attic. Tie it on to the old wire to pull it through if necessary. Get all your wiring sorted out downstairs, then go to the attic, nail a junction box to a truss and splice it into the existing wiring up there. Remember if you have a 20 amp breaker, you need 12 gauge Romex (generally yellow jacketed, but not always). Or likewise, if any part of the circuit uses 14 gauge, you need to downsize to a 15 amp breaker.

If you are lucky and that wiring is behind a mirror, you could put a junction box there with a blank wall plate and be OK as well. I am not an electrician, and this is not professional advice

I love electrical stuff, but I sure do hate people sometimes.

You must have listened to your dad better than most kids we went to school with... Then again, most kids we went to school with didn't have a dad like yours, either.

XJosh 'when in doubt, lag bolt everything' 95

 

[Fore Wheeler]

General rule, if it powers a plug, 12 ga. Lights use 14 ga.

Yellow Romex is 12

 

[GoSlowGetStuck]

You must have listened to your dad better than most kids we went to school with... Then again, most kids we went to school with didn't have a dad like yours, either.

XJosh 'when in doubt, lag bolt everything' 95

That, along with: "Don't be XXXXing with stuff you don't know anything about."

So now I at least try to know about stuff before I XXXX with it. Truly an inspiration!

 

[IllianaXJ]

Brad, there will be cold beer waiting for you down here if I ever need residential wiring done

 

[GoSlowGetStuck]

Brad, there will be cold beer waiting for you down here if I ever need residential wiring done

Beer and wiring, sounds like a safe bet The critical stuff of course is garage wiring, nothing like popping a breaker and sitting in the dark while your angle grinder spins down.

 

[FlexdXJ]

I'm glad when I fell through our wall in the hallway that there wasn't any wiring in that wall! Big hank rescued me when we did the repair.

Flexd' two left feet....and they're broken'XJ

 

[Fore Wheeler]

My garage has 4 circuits. 2 for outlets, one for lights, one 220

 

[seanR]

That wall looks like rock lath and plaster. I bet the house was built somewhere between 1940 and 1960, and the "drywall" pieces are two feet tall.
That wiring is a disater!
For the love of God get it fixed by someone who knows what there are doing.
The DIY channel is entertainment only. They make up words and terms and do shit that would make a pro cry. The phoney baloney Mike Holmes inspector is the biggest.
I get it confused with comedy central sometimes.

 

[SAMSET]

Sam, that looks like modern metal lath and plaster to me. Probably better in a bathroom with the right plaster since it's water resistant, cementboard would be the other good option, or greenboard.

And yeah, that electrical needs to be redone while you have the walls down, hanging splices are a hazard and splices in boxes that aren't accessible without opening the wall are illegal. Not sure how you should go about fixing that, probably pull cable from somewhere where you can put a j-box all the way to the outlet/switch/light it's feeding.

there was a medicine cabinet there. i was not planning on going with another cabinet but if i did could i have splices behind that?

Rule #1 of house repair... don't. Otherwise things just get worse the deeper you go.

Sam, I would tear out enough to get the old wire free, and pull down fresh Romex from the attic. Tie it on to the old wire to pull it through if necessary. Get all your wiring sorted out downstairs, then go to the attic, nail a junction box to a truss and splice it into the existing wiring up there. Remember if you have a 20 amp breaker, you need 12 gauge Romex (generally yellow jacketed, but not always). Or likewise, if any part of the circuit uses 14 gauge, you need to downsize to a 15 amp breaker.

If you are lucky and that wiring is behind a mirror, you could put a junction box there with a blank wall plate and be OK as well. I am not an electrician, and this is not professional advice

I love electrical stuff, but I sure do hate people sometimes.

so you are saying run a entire new wire?
if its hard to see in the pic, the grayish wire is what i think is the main feed. looks original anyways. then it ties into that white wire which goes to a box that has a plug and vanity light switch. then another white wire leaves that box and goes up to the vanity light fixture where it meets a couple black wires the are spliced in with those orange caps.

i was assumeing that what i needed to do was make sure that that connection where the electrical tape is is ok, then when i install a new vanity light make sure that connection if ok, and then use those big staples to make it look a little more prettier against the wall.
are you guys saying no? its all wrong?

That wall looks like rock lath and plaster. I bet the house was built somewhere between 1940 and 1960, and the "drywall" pieces are two feet tall.
That wiring is a disater!
For the love of God get it fixed by someone who knows what there are doing.
The DIY channel is entertainment only. They make up words and terms and do shit that would make a pro cry. The phoney baloney Mike Holmes inspector is the biggest.
I get it confused with comedy central sometimes.

you are correct, house was built in 56. 2ft pieces of drywall(which confused me) with the plaster on top. why did they do this?

i dont view DIY as bible but i do like to watch it. mostly to give me styling ideas.


SAM'i was fine with the leaky window'SET

 

[seanR]

No tape in the wall period!
The wire from the fuse box should be a continuous run of 12 gauge wire. It must be on a GFCI, and any lights above water. It must have a 20 amp breaker. Any splice must be in accessible box. You need to hire the electric fixed if you do not know how to do it your self. It isn't something to monkey aroind with.
As much as I hate inspectors and government officials, I am a big fan of safety and making sure things are done right.

 

[kastein]

x2 - NO splices in walls that are not in a junction box, and you must be able to remove the cover from the junction box without opening the wall, and as far as I know, without removing anything else from the wall.

Put a junction box in the attic like GoSlowGetStuck said, stuff the existing cable into it, run new cable from there straight to your outlet or whatever. And yes, it must be GFCI, properly grounded, with the hot and cold wires run to the right terminals.