Hypothermia Run (night snow run)

Phil, did those boys get you back to Davis? Hope so.

Sorry I couldn't taxi you from Nevada City to davis. We have all been sick and emma's got pnemonia.

SeanP
 
Phil said:
On the car, the steering broke, the front end was kinda torn up, the passenger front fender was severly dented, a fluid reservoir was torn off, and I laid the car over onto the driver's side.
Are you good, or still shaky ?
Was anybody/anything else involved ?
I hope it's just a moderate financial setback.
 
Sean, I finally got home no problem, and I'll get the sawzall back to you soon.

I got through the wreck no problem. It wasn't really a high speed impact, and I didn't hit the hillside head on. The side of the car rode up the hillside, until it passed the balance point and dumped over onto the driver's side. I saw it coming and had my seatbelt on, so I was kinda ready for it.

There were no other vehicles involved, and I didn't have any passengers. Financial impact will be minimal. I just won't have a second vehicle anymore. It was a luxury anyhow.

I'm mostly embarrassed and mad that I screwed up and wrecked my car. :mad:
 
It's always an adventure with Phil.
 
phil you need to sacrifice something to the gods cause you've got some fawked up luck. :wierd:
 
i need to revise the pictures for reasons i can not disclose, so ill have them up by tonight, sounds good? well it doesnt matter if it sounds good or noy cause you cant do anything about it anyways so haha. anyways it truly was a snow trip from hell, and i have no intentions on ever going back there again.
 
ahhaa ok hold on my friend has them on his photobucket he just needs to delete some and stuff
 
Since some of you are *dying* for pics of this snow run, I'll hijack until they get their pics uploaded, and then I'll remove mine. We went up to Cherry Lake last weekend. It's off of 120 near Yosemite. I took one of the guys from our youth group at church with me and had an okay time. What sucked was a guy with a diesel suburban came along with no lift and street tires. I burned up my winch motor and tore the frame in the back where my receiver hitch mounts trying to pull that pig out of the deep stuff.

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I'll remove these when the other pics are up...
 
nice rig. that sucks about your winch. whats the specs on your rig? thats some pretty deep snow and especially for a stock suburban! im callin my freind right now to edit the pics and stuff.
ok going to photobucket right after this post
-Shomsky
 
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some pos that was stuck for hella long

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yeah his tire came off the bead and yes he drove about 5 miles back off the trail

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this is me after about 1 hour of resting in 35 hours

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after i got the flat when we were coming home and had no spare, we were here for about 2-3 hours

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the aftermath of phil crashing his luxurious mazda

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us when we were actually wheeling

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more in car wheeling pics

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getting towed

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more of my rig

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this guy was in some deep sh!t

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when we came back to my rig

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me cutting my cat off

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i didnt want to step in the really deep snow

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installing the new 02 sensor


this was a very long trip that shouldnt have been so long because i should have had spare crap instead of being such a bumb and puting it off.
 
some more pics
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when i had 31's and only 4.5" of lift

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what my friend was gonna bring but didnt have the front driveshaft finished
 
so I take it nobody knew how to re-seat a bead? One of the first rules of snow wheeling is to air down and be able to re-seat the bead. No spare either ???
 
SeanP said:
so I take it nobody knew how to re-seat a bead? One of the first rules of snow wheeling is to air down and be able to re-seat the bead. No spare either ???
This is why I wanted to see how to do it on Dec 23. :)
 
reseating beads:

Hard way:
Use your bottle jack and a 2'x2' base (plywood is fine).

Jack up axle that has the blown bead. On snow, sometimes even the base will sink in the snow, you might need to get creative.

Get the tire free and try to get all snow, muck from off the rim and bead.

Wrap ratchet strap around the circumference of the tire in the center of the tread and start to compress the tire. You are trying to squeeze the bead against the wheel so it will create a seal when you are filling with air.

Start filling the tire. The best way to do this is to have CO2 bottle with the regulator cranked way up for blasting a large volume very quickly. On-board air with a tank is the next best thing. QuickAir or like 12V compressor is very challenging.

The key is to get a clean rim/bead connection.

Last snow run I was on I lost a bead twice on Marni's 5.9 doing massive stupid AWD donuts. I reseated the bead only with using the CO2 (no jacking, no ratchet strap).

Fast way:

Involves removing wheel from vehicle and a flamable gas. I have only seen this done, never tried it. I wouldn't recommend it, but in a pinch it works. I have heard that the valve core should be pulled while doing this so the vacuum caused after the initial explosion doesn;t suck the bead back off.

Either way, a bottle of CO2, a good quality ratchet strap and a stable jack base are essential for snow wheeling. You have to be prepared if you are in the back country in the Sierra in the wintertime. It's no place for amatures.

Also, avoid any cotton clothing altogther in the snow. Once cotton is wet, it will not dry out and will wick BTU's from your body very quickly. Once you are cold, your are in serious trouble. Best is a breathable waterproof fabric like Goretex (or knockoff). Wool is a good second. Cotton=Death.

Be careful, have fun, and be prepared for any eventualilty

SeanP
 
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My mistake, that was 31 of December.

SeanP said:
Use your bottle jack and a 2'x2' base (plywood is fine).
Are you sure about 2x2 feet ? This is more than Cherokee has with probably up to 35" tires. I mean, it would not get in a snow which requires pressure this low. It would sink way before that.

SeanP said:
Get the tire free and try to get all snow, muck from off the rim and bead.
I saw guys at a tire shop used some kind of glue to avoid air leaks. What kind of glue is that ?
 
Slonopotam said:
My mistake, that was 31 of December.


Are you sure about 2x2 feet ? This is more than Cherokee has with probably up to 35" tires. I mean, it would not get in a snow which requires pressure this low. It would sink way before that.


I saw guys at a tire shop used some kind of glue to avoid air leaks. What kind of glue is that ?

I don't understand your first question and how it relates to tire size. You need a flat board underneath your jack so you have some resistance against the snow. Hi-lift makes a base for this, but a piece of 2'x2' plywood is damn near free.
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I am not keen on putting glues on beads. Ultimately they can lodge stuff in there to cause leaks. Ratchet strap trick hasn't failed me yet.
 
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