JeepFreak21
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FlxnXJ said:
I can post the pics for ya if you wanna email them to me.
Billy
hp60/coilover swap on the XJ...
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I can post the pics for ya if you wanna email them to me.
Billy
FlxnXJ
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It not very hard to Triangulate the front end, ( I dont run a track bar ) You can simply leave the UCL axle mounts just to the side of the oil pan ( so they dont hit the pan )and move your subframe side mounts to the out side of the subframe you easily get 40 degrees and luckly for me I had a set of RE drop brackets and only had to make one mount using the outside RE bracket as the other side of the mount. Reason for doing this was to run a doble ended ram for my full hydro steering.
What was I running before the 4 link, a five link. Ya, know 4 control arms and a trac-bar
I dont even have a way to get pictures to my computer to e-mail
There should be quite a few pictures on Rockport Off-road Parks website
RORP.com I think?
What was I running before the 4 link, a five link. Ya, know 4 control arms and a trac-bar
I dont even have a way to get pictures to my computer to e-mail
There should be quite a few pictures on Rockport Off-road Parks website
RORP.com I think?
JeepFreak21
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FlxnXJ said:
This must be it?
Billy
FlxnXJ
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Thats me
ArcticXJ
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FlxnXJ said:
First of all, regarding your track-bar speech..
I cant believe your actually telling me this. :wierd: Wow, I didnt know that trackbars moved the axle from side to side at all! Shit somehow in the last 7 or 8 years of studying and researching and designing suspensions I somehow managed to never come across that information...
Secondly, my comment about "no bumpstops, so not to hit, no worries!" was sarcasm. Youre pretty dense, my friend.
And third,
Which makes no sense..FlxnXJ said:
Compounded by the fact that you say:
So an exo doesnt count, huh...FlxnXJ said:
Thanks for all your valuable input. :twak:
FlxnXJ
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Well, I was refering to people who plate their subframes, now thats extra weight that doesnt need to be there, and over time from what Ive seen ( my opinion ) the floor tends to try to pull away from the reinforced framerails.
And, yes my Exo does help with frame issues, because its all welded in, but its reinforcing the rest of the unibody ( roof, a-pilars,etc.. / The exo is tied into the door hinge mounts on the cowl ) more than the frame itself. Since its major tie in's are the front and rear bumpers, and the bumpers allready hold most of the latteral force on the subframe. ( I my case )
Sorry, man I was just woundering about your trac-bar because I had the issue with my bumpstops not lining up, untill I triangulated my uppers and kept the front end from moving around ( side to side ).
Anyway, It looks good, and stop :rattle: about me questioning one thing. If your happy with it, thats all that matters. God knows my opinion shouldnt matter to you.
eace:
And, yes my Exo does help with frame issues, because its all welded in, but its reinforcing the rest of the unibody ( roof, a-pilars,etc.. / The exo is tied into the door hinge mounts on the cowl ) more than the frame itself. Since its major tie in's are the front and rear bumpers, and the bumpers allready hold most of the latteral force on the subframe. ( I my case )
Sorry, man I was just woundering about your trac-bar because I had the issue with my bumpstops not lining up, untill I triangulated my uppers and kept the front end from moving around ( side to side ).
Anyway, It looks good, and stop :rattle: about me questioning one thing. If your happy with it, thats all that matters. God knows my opinion shouldnt matter to you.
eace:
ArcticXJ
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I forgot that I hadnt updated this thread in about the last year... not much to report. I'm just going to copy and paste what I updated from a different board... Here goes:
Picked up my other Detroit, popped it in with the 5.13's, finally have matching gears now as opposed to 3.42's and 3.54's on a set of 33's. I scored a mediocre deal on a set of 38" SX's too. Theyre too small. They measure out to 36.5" at 20 psi. Scored a new shaft from Tom Woods, and upgraded to a 1350 front yoke setup. As it sits now:
Sorry for the parking lot... Kinda hard to wheel your junk much when your trying to build it from Korea, while it's sitting in Alaska. I came back on leave with the goal of getting the gears knocked out, and getting it locked and on new shoes. And yes, for you sharp eye'd kids, there's no front driveshaft in that pic above.
By this point, I intended on having an Atlas 5:1, Beadlocks, and a cage built for it.... But the street bug bit me and I instead of finishing the Jeep on time, I ended up dragging this home:
After getting it cleaned up, and tuned a little (it'd been primarily sitting and/or in storage over the last few years):
So at the moment, I'm debating which one I'd like to move forward with. I think I'll just see what happens by the time I've put enough extra cash away for the Atlas. If I want it bad enough by that point, I'll get it. If not, I can keep saving and pick up a huffer for the 5.0 sometime soon. We'll see.
In the meantime though, I'll be picking up a few more small parts like diff covers. I mangled the 14 bolt cover just the other day in the little 10x30' rock garden (abandoned landscaping boulders) out in front of the house.
Picked up my other Detroit, popped it in with the 5.13's, finally have matching gears now as opposed to 3.42's and 3.54's on a set of 33's. I scored a mediocre deal on a set of 38" SX's too. Theyre too small. They measure out to 36.5" at 20 psi. Scored a new shaft from Tom Woods, and upgraded to a 1350 front yoke setup. As it sits now:
Sorry for the parking lot... Kinda hard to wheel your junk much when your trying to build it from Korea, while it's sitting in Alaska. I came back on leave with the goal of getting the gears knocked out, and getting it locked and on new shoes. And yes, for you sharp eye'd kids, there's no front driveshaft in that pic above.
By this point, I intended on having an Atlas 5:1, Beadlocks, and a cage built for it.... But the street bug bit me and I instead of finishing the Jeep on time, I ended up dragging this home:
After getting it cleaned up, and tuned a little (it'd been primarily sitting and/or in storage over the last few years):
So at the moment, I'm debating which one I'd like to move forward with. I think I'll just see what happens by the time I've put enough extra cash away for the Atlas. If I want it bad enough by that point, I'll get it. If not, I can keep saving and pick up a huffer for the 5.0 sometime soon. We'll see.
In the meantime though, I'll be picking up a few more small parts like diff covers. I mangled the 14 bolt cover just the other day in the little 10x30' rock garden (abandoned landscaping boulders) out in front of the house.
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Awh, finish the Jeep. Once you get it together and get it out to play you'll be glad you did.
oopsbilly
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nice work, wanting to do coilovers myself and this is very helpful. question though. What did you get the d60's out of?? And how wide are your flares??? Building a crawler myself and am in the market for some 60's but would like to remain as close as possible to "legal" width.
ArcticXJ
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Richard... I know, man. I know. But its so hard when you've never owned a vehicle that had a measureable 0-60 time before. By the time any of mine ever got there, I forgot I was still supposed to be counting.
The Mustang, on the other hand, makes me giggle like a little girl when the rear end kicks out on the 1-2 shift. I'm still very much jaded.
OopsBilly--
The front axle is an '88 Ford F350 High Pinion Kingpin Dana 60. If you are planning on coilovers, its a fine choice. However, if you feel that you have the slightest inclination towards keeping your coils, stay away from it. Go with a 78-79 vintage HP60. The newer late 80's models have an EXTREMELY short driver's side tube which gives very very little room to work with and heavily limits your possibilities for coil buckets. IMO, it cant be done properly without purching the driver's side coil practically on top of the diff. If you attempt to center the XJ's coil over the small space between the diff and the C, you'll push the passenger side tube way the hell out beyond the body and end up having to cut that side down heavily. That somewhat defeats the purpose of going to fullwidth axles... know what I mean? The older 60's have the diff offset further towards the center of the rig, and can be centered under the XJ while retaining the ability to put the coil buckets in their proper place, respective to the XJ's factory locations.
The rear isnt a 60. Its a 14 bolt from a 1 ton '79 Chevy. 3/4 Ton front Discs swapped on, and a Detroit with 5.13's. Stock shafts. The 60 up front is 69" WMS to WMS, and the 14 bolt is 67". The difference isnt noticeable to me. Not at 1" per side, anyways.
The Bushwhacker flares are about 6" wide up front, and maybe 4" (if that) out back. The front end of the XJ tapers, hence the wider front flares to compensate. My tires are 12.5" wide on 9.75" wide rims with 4.25" backspacing. You can see for yourself they sit fairly well under the flares, but arent completely covered. I havent received any hassle from Johnny Law for them, and dont feel that I will.
The Mustang, on the other hand, makes me giggle like a little girl when the rear end kicks out on the 1-2 shift. I'm still very much jaded.
OopsBilly--
The front axle is an '88 Ford F350 High Pinion Kingpin Dana 60. If you are planning on coilovers, its a fine choice. However, if you feel that you have the slightest inclination towards keeping your coils, stay away from it. Go with a 78-79 vintage HP60. The newer late 80's models have an EXTREMELY short driver's side tube which gives very very little room to work with and heavily limits your possibilities for coil buckets. IMO, it cant be done properly without purching the driver's side coil practically on top of the diff. If you attempt to center the XJ's coil over the small space between the diff and the C, you'll push the passenger side tube way the hell out beyond the body and end up having to cut that side down heavily. That somewhat defeats the purpose of going to fullwidth axles... know what I mean? The older 60's have the diff offset further towards the center of the rig, and can be centered under the XJ while retaining the ability to put the coil buckets in their proper place, respective to the XJ's factory locations.
The rear isnt a 60. Its a 14 bolt from a 1 ton '79 Chevy. 3/4 Ton front Discs swapped on, and a Detroit with 5.13's. Stock shafts. The 60 up front is 69" WMS to WMS, and the 14 bolt is 67". The difference isnt noticeable to me. Not at 1" per side, anyways.
The Bushwhacker flares are about 6" wide up front, and maybe 4" (if that) out back. The front end of the XJ tapers, hence the wider front flares to compensate. My tires are 12.5" wide on 9.75" wide rims with 4.25" backspacing. You can see for yourself they sit fairly well under the flares, but arent completely covered. I havent received any hassle from Johnny Law for them, and dont feel that I will.
gatmetalxj
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do you ever wheel this thing!!!! i've been watchin the build since it starte in AK...and i have yet to see any wheelin pics!!!! who needs a front driveshaft....WHEEL IT!!!! WTF!!!! hahaha...just given yah hell....Eric aka akxj (from AK4x4network)..
ArcticXJ
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No, actually I dont wheel it. Its currently Oregons largest paper weight. But here's a wheeling picture, just because I hate being called out.gatmetalxj said:
I leave here (Korea) on 10 November, report to some training in Colorado Springs till 7 December, and finally fly over to my folks place to get it. I'll be wheeling it all over Oregon for about 3 weeks while I'm on leave. Well, maybe 2 weeks. The first week will be Jeep prep and family time.
Good to hear from you. Hope your recovery is going smooth.
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Gravesdiggerxj
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sorry to dig this up from the grave... but what's been going on?