hp60/coilover swap on the XJ...

ArcticXJ · Jul 26, 2005

I swear the man has more links-for-the-occasion than trailer park barbeque. :roflmao:

ArcticXJ · Jul 30, 2005

Yes, thats 1.5" DOM, that is... you guessed it... .250" wall. BEEF!

xjj33p3r · Jul 30, 2005

Hot stuff dude.

tealcherokee · Jul 30, 2005

im jelous of the steering....let alone the rest

JeepFreak21 · Jul 30, 2005

It almost looks like you'd have better angles if you hadn't bent the trackbar like that. Am I seeing things or was there other reasoning behind it?
Billy

Capt. Nemo · Jul 30, 2005

JeepFreak21 said:
It almost looks like you'd have better angles if you hadn't bent the trackbar like that. Am I seeing things or was there other reasoning behind it?
Billy

The tracbar needs to clear the pumpkin when the driver's side of the axle flexes up.

Lincoln · Jul 30, 2005

Artic,

Why didn't you go ahead and spend the few bills on high steer arms? It would have been much easier in the long run.

ArcticXJ · Jul 31, 2005

JeepFreak21 said:
It almost looks like you'd have better angles if you hadn't bent the trackbar like that. Am I seeing things or was there other reasoning behind it?
Billy

The angles are almost perfect as is. Whether or not the bar has one, or many bends in it has no relevancy. The TB can have a loopty-loop in it or be shaped like a corkscrew and it wouldnt matter, as long as the two mounting points will droop in the same arc. I.E. they are as close as possible to parallel, and length. In the picture, if you notice the orange strings strung from point to point of the TB and tie rod ends, you'll see theyre near perfect. Somehow this confuses a lot of people, because they look at only the angle of the rod at the joints. Its the overall angles that have to match to avoid deathwobble/bumpsteer.

ArcticXJ · Jul 31, 2005

Lincoln said:
Artic,

Why didn't you go ahead and spend the few bills on high steer arms? It would have been much easier in the long run.

Lincoln,

[Violin Music][Pity Party] Youre right. However Ive just spent so much damn money already, and am so far beyond my budget for this that luxury parts like highsteer would push me way too far into the red. At this point, its been down for over 3 months and all I want anymore is just to get the fawking thing out of the shop and driving. I may have forgot to mention that this is my daily driver. I have no other means of transpo, and ive been catching rides to get groceries and to work since April.

C'mon, I mean I'm only 21 here.

And low ranking military at that. This XJ project has consumed over half my yearly salary for the last 2.5 years. And thats no exxageration. [/Pity Party][/Violin Music]

Lincoln · Jul 31, 2005

ArcticXJ said:
Lincoln,

[Violin Music][Pity Party] Youre right. However Ive just spent so much damn money already, and am so far beyond my budget for this that luxury parts like highsteer would push me way too far into the red. At this point, its been down for over 3 months and all I want anymore is just to get the fawking thing out of the shop and driving. I may have forgot to mention that this is my daily driver. I have no other means of transpo, and ive been catching rides to get groceries and to work since April.

C'mon, I mean I'm only 21 here. And low ranking military at that. This XJ project has consumed over half my yearly salary for the last 2.5 years. And thats no exxageration. [/Pity Party][/Violin Music]

Yeh, I know it isn't cheep. That's why I brought up it was only a few bills more. You've got this much money and time it would be a shame not to pick up this one little detail.

Think about just doing the passenger side. You could pick up rockstompers for $100 or a Sky Manufacturing one piece for $135.

:thumbup:

ArcticXJ · Jul 31, 2005

Why do that?

Then the TB mount would have to get ripped off, and a whole new one fabbed up, and the TB itself may end up being no good, considering it would have to be re-bent since it would likely hit the oil pan with the arc in it as is. Theres yet more money spent.

You guys are also forgetting to factor in the cost and time of shipping to Alaska. I bought front shafts the other day, and it was over $150 for shipping alone via the CHEAPEST shipping method, ground. There went the steering arm right there.

BrettM · Jul 31, 2005

ArcticXJ said:
Why do that?

Then the TB mount would have to get ripped off, and a whole new one fabbed up, and the TB itself may end up being no good, considering it would have to be re-bent since it would likely hit the oil pan with the arc in it as is. Theres yet more money spent.

You guys are also forgetting to factor in the cost and time of shipping to Alaska. I bought front shafts the other day, and it was over $150 for shipping alone via the CHEAPEST shipping method, ground. There went the steering arm right there.

I just checked USPS 3 day Priority Mail and I can send a 10 pound box from Nor-Cal to Anchorage for $20. Check out the double arms (behind the diff tie-rod) from WFO, I could pick them up and ship them to you if you want.

ArcticXJ · Jul 31, 2005

Whaaa??? 20 bucks? Hmmm.... I gotta go look into this. You have linky? If thats true, then why the hell didnt you say something to me 3 months ago!

I might actually take you up on this in the coming weeks. Im broke as a joke at the moment though, and am trying to just make do with whats there. Im not going to even have 4 wheel drive when this thing rolls out of the shop, let alone be wheeling it. I still need a new front shaft as the stocker isnt going to cut it, and will bind at the CV after only a couple inches of axle droop. We checked.

I also dont have matching gears yet (14 bolt has 3.55's or 3.73's... i forget) and the odds that the 60 has like ones are slim. No lockers yet either. Im just trying to get this thing back to daily driver status before I can start stockpiling cash for a two gear/setup kits, a rear detroit, and who-knows-what front locker. Matter o' fact, I think Im gonna go start a poll thread on what front locker to use, since I cant come to any conclusions. What do you think?

BrettM · Jul 31, 2005

ArcticXJ said:
Whaaa??? 20 bucks? Hmmm.... I gotta go look into this. You have linky? If thats true, then why the hell didnt you say something to me 3 months ago! I might actually take you up on this in the coming weeks. Im broke as a joke at the moment though, and am trying to just make do with whats there. Im not going to even have 4 wheel drive when this thing rolls out of the shop, let alone be wheeling it. I still need a new front shaft as the stocker isnt going to cut it, and will bind at the CV after only a couple inches of axle droop. We checked.

I also dont have matching gears yet (14 bolt has 3.55's or 3.73's... i forget) and the odds that the 60 has like ones are slim. No lockers yet either. Im just trying to get this thing back to daily driver status before I can start stockpiling cash for a two gear/setup kits, a rear detroit, and who-knows-what front locker. Matter o' fact, I think Im gonna go start a poll thread on what front locker to use, since I cant come to any conclusions. What do you think?

I plugged it in at USPS.com, my zip is 95928 and I did a quick search for an Anchorage one and found 99501.

Get an ARB or a Detroit, I'm guessing most of your wheeling up there is slippery rock or mud, so the turning benefits of being able to unlock an ARB is probaly a moot point, so I'm thinking Detroit.

ArcticXJ · Jul 31, 2005

Good call. As am I, but its such a hard decision seeing as how theyre all so individual in their pros and cons.... and theyre fawking expensive. If I can manage to save up the cash, and the price becomes of little concern, then ideally I'd like to go with an Ox.

JeepFreak21 · Jul 31, 2005

ArcticXJ said:
The angles are almost perfect as is. Whether or not the bar has one, or many bends in it has no relevancy.

:doh: Duh! You'd think I'd learned that by now!
Billy

BIGWOODY · Aug 2, 2005

ArcticXJ said:
Matter o' fact, I think Im gonna go start a poll thread on what front locker to use, since I cant come to any conclusions. What do you think?

I run a lockright in my hp60, with 39" krawlers, stroker,chromo's, 35spline outters and drive flanges. I've broken a 35 spline lock out and a chromo 35 spline outer..but the lockright keeps on getting it. The lockright for a 60 is freaking huge, if you don't care about having a selectable locker it's a hell of a good deal.

flexj · Aug 5, 2005

Looks like some nice work.

I'm working on the same thing right now.

I'd go with a Detriot for the cost alone. They are dang near bulletproof and are about $500

If you need 3.54 gears for the 60 let me know. I'll donate them to your project since you're military. They are used but still good.

Hamy.