How did you get your TRXus MTs to balance?

[ZachMan]

Took my 31's to Big O tires. All balanced fine. Only one was out about 5 ounces worse than the rest. No tire vibes while driving.

Dude I got like half a wheel of weights on 2 tires, lol

 

[ZachMan]

I wouldn't think it is tire balance either. I run 34" LTB Bias ply swampers. They aren't balance to perfection , and I run no sway bars with 5" of lift. I run it at about 70 freeway speed.The only vibrations is the lugs or if they are cold. No wobble at all. Is everything tight down there ? You may consider drop brackets. Spendy, but it gives you a lot more articulation and the front end acts much better.

I'm not gonna spend much money to solve this when I know if I switch tires it will all go away. I got a deal on these 5 tires so it won't be hard to get my money back.

 

[ZachMan]

check your hubs
when i got my 33's the drivers side hub went out
couldnt go above 45 w/o violent DW

jack up the front end and try and move the tire around

I've been on 33s for a long time , doubt something mystically broke or got loose whe nmy new tires went on.

 

[skipo]

tires dont cause death wobble, the vibration might be making what ever is causing it to act up. my boggers were out by over a pound on each side of the tire. never balanced them, never had any issues, even at very fast speeds

One word- impossible. I have sold tires and wheels for more than 5 yrs. and would surely get a come back on anything over an ounce from someones daily driver!

 

[ZachMan]

OH and dont mix the TreXus with other brand tars sans maybe other swampers. Swampers tend to run tru to size others dont, mixing them will reak havoc on your Tcase!!!

CW

Not true.

1. I ran 33" X-Terrians that measured 32" eve nwith new Mud Kings that measured 33.6" up front no issues at all.

2. These tires are the same height as my Mud Kings.

 

[muduck18]

tires dont cause death wobble, the vibration might be making what ever is causing it to act up. my boggers were out by over a pound on each side of the tire. never balanced them, never had any issues, even at very fast speeds

my tires are square makes for a bumpy ride but the ladies go nutz.



I kinda agree that tires don't cause DW, they aggravate it.

bad alignment, loose fitting, sloppy steering box, weak/loose track bar.

I fixed my dw with adjusting my caster less than 1/8" (uca length)

Tires aggravate it.

 

[98xjjeeper]

sounds like a ds problem. but just my .02

 

[cwlongshot]

Not true.

1. I ran 33" X-Terrians that measured 32" eve nwith new Mud Kings that measured 33.6" up front no issues at all.

2. These tires are the same height as my Mud Kings.

Dont you believe it my firend......just THINK for a moment about what you just said....with different diameter tars tor front axle will be rotating at a different rate of speed then your rear. Transfer cases will NOT LIVE LONG UNDER THESE CONDITIONS!!!

HECK, if you run locking diffs, just running a tire under inflated on ONE SIDE of an axle will make it BALK! Know why???? IT A DIFFERENT FREAKING DIAMETER when aired down, thats why!!!

Ever wonder why 4WD is not recomended on hard dry pavement????? Tars get LOTSA TRACTION and something has got to give....usually your TCASE!!!!

You can do what you want...but dont tell others this is not true!!!!
Some idiot just might listen to your rubbish and blow their drive line....

CW

 

[CartsXJ]

Very very very carefully.........no seriously, just call the guys over at innovative balance and ask for their balancing kit. I put 10 oz in each of my 35" trxus MTs on 15x8 street locks. They even sell the special valve stem inserts and a kit to place the ceramic beads thru the stem, much nicer is you already have the tires mounted. And if that doesn't work for you, try removing all your rim weights, that was the trick for me.

 

[scorpio_vette]

Very very very carefully.........no seriously, just call the guys over at innovative balance and ask for their balancing kit. I put 10 oz in each of my 35" trxus MTs on 15x8 street locks. They even sell the special valve stem inserts and a kit to place the ceramic beads thru the stem, much nicer is you already have the tires mounted. And if that doesn't work for you, try removing all your rim weights, that was the trick for me.

and it costs 3 times as much as going to wallmart and buying the big pack of airsoft pellets for $15, which is enough to do all 5tires and doesn't require "special" valve stems.

 

[tealcherokee]

One word- impossible. I have sold tires and wheels for more than 5 yrs. and would surely get a come back on anything over an ounce from someones daily driver!

oh freaking no.....we have a 5 year firestone performance technician. what do you get paid, like $8/hr now?

tell ya what, go back to tire school....

while 1-2 ounces IS noticible, it will cause a slight vibration at certain speeds

as the tires get bigger, and the weight increases, especially on the bias ply tires, its not that the vibration gets all that worse, the amount of time the vibration occurs increases, my 33" boggers were out about 6-8oz on each side. and vibrated from about 30-70 mph. my 35's i put one on the balancer just for shits and giggles, 11oz on one side 14oz on the other. never balanced, slight vibe from 20-80 mph.

 

[CartsXJ]

and it costs 3 times as much as going to wallmart and buying the big pack of airsoft pellets for $15, which is enough to do all 5tires and doesn't require "special" valve stems.

I know that 99 cent valve stem almost broke me.......... if you have the ability to break the bead and throw in the beads and want the cheap way of doing it go to walmart. I didn't mind spending the extra, the guy is local to me and I try to give back to the locals when I can. Plus the fact that I never have to get the tire balanced again was worth it........They don't like big tires around here, even the guys who have the Hunter 9700.

 

[MudDawg]

Whoever originally bought the tires should have had the obvious out of round or mass imbalance problem dealt with...either way the tires are either out of round or have a mass imbalance.

Yes, tires can cause DW...personal experience. You can balance an out of round tire, but it will still be out of round...if it's out of round, it will cause oscillation that can lead to DW. A tire with mass imbalance can check as true and balance out fine, but at speed the localized high mass area will cause a "hump" in the tread area due to centrifugal force. This can drive you nuts..the tire is true and balanced except at speeds high enough to generate the problem.

 

[scorpio_vette]

I know that 99 cent valve stem almost broke me.......... if you have the ability to break the bead and throw in the beads and want the cheap way of doing it go to walmart. I didn't mind spending the extra, the guy is local to me and I try to give back to the locals when I can. Plus the fact that I never have to get the tire balanced again was worth it........They don't like big tires around here, even the guys who have the Hunter 9700.

why do you have to be able to break the bead yourself to use the walmart beads. i just weight them, put them in seperate zip lock bags, and told the guy at the shop to throw the contents of each bag in one of the tires. no problems since.

and see....the "local guy" still got to do some work.

 

[skipo]

oh freaking no.....we have a 5 year firestone performance technician. what do you get paid, like $8/hr now?

tell ya what, go back to tire school....

while 1-2 ounces IS noticible, it will cause a slight vibration at certain speeds

as the tires get bigger, and the weight increases, especially on the bias ply tires, its not that the vibration gets all that worse, the amount of time the vibration occurs increases, my 33" boggers were out about 6-8oz on each side. and vibrated from about 30-70 mph. my 35's i put one on the balancer just for shits and giggles, 11oz on one side 14oz on the other. never balanced, slight vibe from 20-80 mph.

 

[skipo]

oh freaking no.....we have a 5 year firestone performance technician. what do you get paid, like $8/hr now?

tell ya what, go back to tire school....

while 1-2 ounces IS noticible, it will cause a slight vibration at certain speeds

as the tires get bigger, and the weight increases, especially on the bias ply tires, its not that the vibration gets all that worse, the amount of time the vibration occurs increases, my 33" boggers were out about 6-8oz on each side. and vibrated from about 30-70 mph. my 35's i put one on the balancer just for shits and giggles, 11oz on one side 14oz on the other. never balanced, slight vibe from 20-80 mph.

your calling me a firestone tech at $8.00 an hour,all I can tell you is stick to your volkswagon tech pal, If you read your reply you just admitted to what my reply said.....noticeable vibration at a certain speed! and just so you know I have been in business for myself almost as long as you have been alive! Doing tires wheels parts lift kits and restoration work. you should ask who you are thrashing before you do it, oh yeah I forgot your just a kid with your first jeep and you know everything because you work on volkswagons, sorry I forgot! oh and by the way doesn't death wobble usually occur at a certain speed? or have you not been wheeling 4 link vehicles long enough to know that?:moon: hello a vibration for a 60mph range! Oh I forgot, thats acceptable in your world in your daily driver

 

[skipo]

oh freaking no.....we have a 5 year firestone performance technician. what do you get paid, like $8/hr now?

tell ya what, go back to tire school....

while 1-2 ounces IS noticible, it will cause a slight vibration at certain speeds

as the tires get bigger, and the weight increases, especially on the bias ply tires, its not that the vibration gets all that worse, the amount of time the vibration occurs increases, my 33" boggers were out about 6-8oz on each side. and vibrated from about 30-70 mph. my 35's i put one on the balancer just for shits and giggles, 11oz on one side 14oz on the other. never balanced, slight vibe from 20-80 mph.

Man why did I waste the money on a sye, if I had only known that a vibration from the time I left the school zone and the entire time I was on the highway till the time I pulled in the freaking driveway was acceptable, I would have saved the money, oh well I guess I should have bought a volkswagon!

 

[skipo]

Man why did I waste the money on a sye, if I had only known that a vibration from the time I left the school zone and the entire time I was on the highway till the time I pulled in the freaking driveway was acceptable, I would have saved the money, oh well I guess I should have bought a volkswagon!

To the other people on this board who have at least some common sense, please do not hold these last few posts against me. When I am directly, sarcasticly insulted by someone of his mentallity I tend to overreact. I am normally a very passive person. THX... SKIPO

 

[ZachMan]

Dont you believe it my firend......just THINK for a moment about what you just said....with different diameter tars tor front axle will be rotating at a different rate of speed then your rear. Transfer cases will NOT LIVE LONG UNDER THESE CONDITIONS!!!

HECK, if you run locking diffs, just running a tire under inflated on ONE SIDE of an axle will make it BALK! Know why???? IT A DIFFERENT FREAKING DIAMETER when aired down, thats why!!!

Ever wonder why 4WD is not recomended on hard dry pavement????? Tars get LOTSA TRACTION and something has got to give....usually your TCASE!!!!

You can do what you want...but dont tell others this is not true!!!!
Some idiot just might listen to your rubbish and blow their drive line....

CW

Umm sorry I ment my rears were 32" and front 32.6" and yeah in 10k miles nothing bad happened.

I don't spout rubbish, I seriously doubt you know more about XJs than I do.

 

[ZachMan]

Whoever originally bought the tires should have had the obvious out of round or mass imbalance problem dealt with...either way the tires are either out of round or have a mass imbalance.

Yes, tires can cause DW...personal experience. You can balance an out of round tire, but it will still be out of round...if it's out of round, it will cause oscillation that can lead to DW. A tire with mass imbalance can check as true and balance out fine, but at speed the localized high mass area will cause a "hump" in the tread area due to centrifugal force. This can drive you nuts..the tire is true and balanced except at speeds high enough to generate the problem.

Thnak you for posting, I have the tires up forsale and I am getting some MTZs.