gonna be starting the cage soon, welding ?

I have a mig also I just was gonna use a stick where the SS and the carbon steel where joined.
Ok here is what I have.
1.90 OD x .100 wall SS pipe. approx. 150ft of it. I can get for free. Is there any reason not to use pipe as opposed to tubing? Thanks.
 
BUCKYXJ said:
I have a mig also I just was gonna use a stick where the SS and the carbon steel where joined.
Ok here is what I have.
1.90 OD x .100 wall SS pipe. approx. 150ft of it. I can get for free. Is there any reason not to use pipe as opposed to tubing? Thanks.
As I understand it, pipe is much more rigid than DOM tubing. So if you were to end up with the wheels higher than than the roof the pipe would be more apt to break and not provide the same constant protection as DOM which is more flexy and will bend.

Sound about right?
 
DTHBOX said:
As a rule of thumb use the softer material of the two for the weld wire. Another thought if you go to s.s. you can use a thinner wall thickness because you gain strength with the s.s.
As for the purging the tube I don't think these welds are being x-rayed.


I understand they aren't going to be x-rayed :twak: ....but if he is wanting a rollcage that isn't going to come apart when used, might want to look into the structural strength of Stainless pipe welds, especially if welding disimilar metals. What good is the exo going to be if the welds holding the whole thing on won't withstand a rollover or hard hit?? Severe grain growth (or crystalization) is nothing to disregard, especially if going with a thinner wall on the material.
 
Okie Terry said:
As I understand it, pipe is much more rigid than DOM tubing. So if you were to end up with the wheels higher than than the roof the pipe would be more apt to break and not provide the same constant protection as DOM which is more flexy and will bend.

Sound about right?


Ductility and Toughness (ability to absorb energy). Pipe is generally much lower in these properties than tube.

When we start talking about SS pipe, I am not sure what the physical properties look like. Given the 1.90" x .100" dimensions you quoted, that sounds alot like 1 1/2" Sch 10S pipe. Right? Sch 10S actually has a .109" wall thickness.

For iron pipe what Okie says is basically correct. While very strong, pipe is not very ductile and thus not very tough when compared to even thinner wall thickness tube. Pipe can fracture under hard impact thus absorbing very little energy. Tube can flex and deform but it is much less likely to completely fail.

Stainless poses an interesting twist to this age old question though.
I can't say definitively that SS pipe would not be a good choice, but my gut says to stick with the mild steel tube.
If you can find some material properties of the SS pipe, start comparing them to those of different tube materials (HREW and DOM) and iron pipe.
Might at least give us something quantitative to evaluate.
 
SS pipe is a completely different animal than regular steel pipe. You'll have to do some research on this & the properties that this SS pipe has. I've never worked with SS pipe & don't know it's characteristics except for building some sulfuric acid injectors to inject acid into some sprinkler systems. Remember that SS is not always just SS. There are several grades just like mild steel such as 304 or 316 & all have different qualities & attributes. Find out what the stuff is that you're getting & than find out the specs on that material. Than & only than will you know if this stuff is suitable for a cage. Do some home work. ;)

Matt
 
CRASH said:
Now you guys need to find me some wire that will join 6V 4Al Titanium to 4130 Chromoly.

CRASH
a coat hanger, 4 yellow tops, 4ga jumper cables, and 2 kegs of beer should work fine. :dunno:
 
OK I checked my Material Test Reports for the Stainless I WAS gonna use and the yeild is 220 Mpa which is approx. 31,000psi which isn't anywhere near mild steel such as 1040. I work in a stainless shop so I am currently getting quotes on some 1.75" x.120 wall 1040 mild steel. Damn why cant I just grab some pipe and start bending it.
DIG IT!
 
CRASH said:
Why not make teh whole thing out of stainless, then you don't have to worry about mixing metals on your welding .

Plus, think of the chick-pulling bling factor if you polish her all up!

CRASH
Cause I always see the chicks flocking to Deloreans. :laugh:
 
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