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Gas Prices!!!
- Thread starter mgreen84
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Texas....$2.81 last night....stuff ain't cheap but if I wanna get to work nstuff I really don't have a choice..No bus systems in my area no way to ride share,so I just kinda try not to make too many trips that woul use a lot of gas.
My 89"does not like ANYTHING OTHER THAN 93 OCTANE misses,bogs down,really crappy gas milage,if I put the cheep stuff in...
My 89"does not like ANYTHING OTHER THAN 93 OCTANE misses,bogs down,really crappy gas milage,if I put the cheep stuff in...
BrettM
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- Location
- michifornia
buy a Honda, that's what I did. gas prices still suck though.
I thought I had it bad here in Georgia at $2.55/gallon. I still can't believe that my jeep gets such bad mileage....average for a 98 what 14-16mpg. Mine gets like 12, and I've done everything I can to fix it (plugs,cap,rotor,injector cleaner,new gas cap,o rings,intake) guess I'll just have to take the "heel toe" express all 21 miles to work
BrettM
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- michifornia
my 88 with 220k miles on the motor, and 35" tires gets better than 12mpg even if it's all city miles driving like a jackass. yours just don't seem right.mgreen84 said:
RichP
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- Location
- Effort, Pa
The only way to get the prices back down would be for a total stoppage by a large percentage of the population and I'm not talking about higher end jobs people either like lawyers, doctors and other high paying jobs. I'm talking low end and medium income people like garbage men, clean up people, service, trades and such, one that would have an effect on the economy, the trucking industy could do it all on it's own by just parking for a week. I'm feeling the pinch and have had to all but eliminate free pickup and delivery on systems for business's. The people that are really getting hit are the people who can't afford it the most, low income that have to commute some long distances to work in low paying jobs in higher income areas nearer major metro areas towards NY, NJ and phila. All because there are no local jobs other than telemarketing and phone collections type jobs and they can in no way afford a hi milage hybrid, generally drive much older cars and can't afford to live in the areas they work.
I watched a big motor home fill up yesterday heading out on vacation, all I can say is 'wowser', that was a quick $220...
But to have gas prices almost triple in a year is a crime and unless I'm mistaken during wartime is called 'profiteering' and is a punishable offense, actually it might even be a federal capital offense during wartime...
I watched a big motor home fill up yesterday heading out on vacation, all I can say is 'wowser', that was a quick $220...
But to have gas prices almost triple in a year is a crime and unless I'm mistaken during wartime is called 'profiteering' and is a punishable offense, actually it might even be a federal capital offense during wartime...
Lawn Cher'
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- Location
- Westampton, NJ
Replace your oxygen sensor, Mr Green, and check your air filter, catalytic converter, etc. The harder the engine has to work to pump air the more fuel it will use to move the vehicle.
- Location
- Harrisburg, NC
$30 to put 12 gallons in the other day at 2.46/gal, and that was the cheapest in town (costco). Drive 10 miles to work and 10 back every day, and at 13mpg thats about a gallon and a half a day. And thats just to work and back, making barely above minimum wage. I try not to run the a/c, but some days when its 96* and i'm stuck in traffic a little a/c feels good.
99 4.0 auto. An all out tune up is comin this weekend. How much to o2 sensors usually run and where the best place to get one? (meaning is a dealer one better than say a Napa one or something). I used to get a steady 15-16mpg and I can live with that. But it's been getting progressively worse over time, and lately been running kinda rough (hence the tune up).
Already checked the obvious. New air filter, tires are aired at 35psi. I try to take at easy on the go peddle too, try not to rev higher than 2500 unless i'm gettin on the highway or somethin.
99 4.0 auto. An all out tune up is comin this weekend. How much to o2 sensors usually run and where the best place to get one? (meaning is a dealer one better than say a Napa one or something). I used to get a steady 15-16mpg and I can live with that. But it's been getting progressively worse over time, and lately been running kinda rough (hence the tune up).
Already checked the obvious. New air filter, tires are aired at 35psi. I try to take at easy on the go peddle too, try not to rev higher than 2500 unless i'm gettin on the highway or somethin.
andyr354
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- North Central KS
A truck in front of me at a fuel stop put in $900 bucks worth! Big tanks and 2.65 for diesel it adds up very quick.
red91xj
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- New Mexico
I drive 80 miles round trip for work... that hurts... I can usually fill up on payday and go to next payday. It's when I go wheeling that the gas situation hurts me...
KingOfTheHill
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- Location
- Palmdale, Ca
here in southern california
3.19 for diesel locally
3.17 now for premium (wich here in socal is only 91 octane)
JOe
3.19 for diesel locally
3.17 now for premium (wich here in socal is only 91 octane)
JOe
5-90
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- Location
- Hammerspace
Profiteering, during wartime, by individuals, damn sure is capital - but I'm not sure what happens when it's Standard Oil (for those of you who don't get the referent, I suggest you look up the board of directors for SO before the breakup, and then cross-reference with the various boards after. Quite an eye-opener...)
The bulk of the problem is that there are quite a few things that cannot be done by individual citizens, but are perfectly legal when done by corporations. Did you know that NFA1934 does not apply to corporations? That's right - a corporation may buy machine guns at will, without CLEO signoff on ATF Form 4, and it's not an issue. That goes back to things like "Labour Relations" for coal-mining companies in the 40's and 50's.
That, of course, bears upon the price hikes in fuel for much the same reason - a corporation has no trouble doing what an individual may not.
Also, while Diesel used to cost less than gasoline (fewer refining steps,) it now costs more due to "artificial rarity" - they've figured out how to crack Diesel hydrocarbon chains into the short paraffinoids used in gasoline, and this reduces the effective supply of Diesel fuel (you can figure the time for that by plotting gasoline prices vice Diesel - I'm not going to do all your work for you, just tell you where to look...) The increase in Diesel prices has been caused by an attempt to solve the (purely artificial, I'm sure) rarity of automotive gasoline. Rich can give us stories from his days in ASW in the 70's - about the same time as the oil embargos and such.
Frankly, I'd like to see a stoppage by the trucking industry - TOTAL. I'm sure it would get everyone's attention. Being no stranger to DP, it would only take minor changes in a few things for me to handle a week-long stoppage - I'd need to change a few things around to handle a full fortnight - but this is more a matter of careful planning than luck. I live in California - I try to be ready for anything up to six weeks (the problem with the truck stoppage would be that we still have to work - earthquakes don't require that.)
Churky - what's your 89 got against 87 octane? Mine like it - so does my 88, and my 87. I run them all on the cheapest stuff I can get, and nary a hiccup. Carbon buildup, perhaps? PM me and I can give you a hint on getting rid of carbon - or seeing if it's the problem...
5-90
The bulk of the problem is that there are quite a few things that cannot be done by individual citizens, but are perfectly legal when done by corporations. Did you know that NFA1934 does not apply to corporations? That's right - a corporation may buy machine guns at will, without CLEO signoff on ATF Form 4, and it's not an issue. That goes back to things like "Labour Relations" for coal-mining companies in the 40's and 50's.
That, of course, bears upon the price hikes in fuel for much the same reason - a corporation has no trouble doing what an individual may not.
Also, while Diesel used to cost less than gasoline (fewer refining steps,) it now costs more due to "artificial rarity" - they've figured out how to crack Diesel hydrocarbon chains into the short paraffinoids used in gasoline, and this reduces the effective supply of Diesel fuel (you can figure the time for that by plotting gasoline prices vice Diesel - I'm not going to do all your work for you, just tell you where to look...) The increase in Diesel prices has been caused by an attempt to solve the (purely artificial, I'm sure) rarity of automotive gasoline. Rich can give us stories from his days in ASW in the 70's - about the same time as the oil embargos and such.
Frankly, I'd like to see a stoppage by the trucking industry - TOTAL. I'm sure it would get everyone's attention. Being no stranger to DP, it would only take minor changes in a few things for me to handle a week-long stoppage - I'd need to change a few things around to handle a full fortnight - but this is more a matter of careful planning than luck. I live in California - I try to be ready for anything up to six weeks (the problem with the truck stoppage would be that we still have to work - earthquakes don't require that.)
Churky - what's your 89 got against 87 octane? Mine like it - so does my 88, and my 87. I run them all on the cheapest stuff I can get, and nary a hiccup. Carbon buildup, perhaps? PM me and I can give you a hint on getting rid of carbon - or seeing if it's the problem...
5-90
I can't help but think that if everyone, or a large majority of us, simply reduced our fuel comsumption, things would get back in line. Despite the higher fuel prices, driving slower coupled with driving less have reduced my consumption to the point that my monthy gas expense is actually less than it was last year.
And having cheap old cars does not mean having gas hogs. My 91 Subaru Justy gets about 44mpg, and I only paid about $1200 for it a couple of years ago (and I overpaid at that). There are several similar cars that get as good or better mileage (the Justy pays for having 4wd) and that are just as cheap or cheaper.
Of course, if my theory is wrong, or nobody else gets on board while you reduce your personal consumption, and gas prices remain high, you still come out ahead. Then again, if the prices come back down, and you can retain your new practices, you come out way ahead (win-win?).
Travis
And having cheap old cars does not mean having gas hogs. My 91 Subaru Justy gets about 44mpg, and I only paid about $1200 for it a couple of years ago (and I overpaid at that). There are several similar cars that get as good or better mileage (the Justy pays for having 4wd) and that are just as cheap or cheaper.
Of course, if my theory is wrong, or nobody else gets on board while you reduce your personal consumption, and gas prices remain high, you still come out ahead. Then again, if the prices come back down, and you can retain your new practices, you come out way ahead (win-win?).
Travis
- Location
- Foresthill, CA
Two words:
Bio-diesel revolution.
Bio-diesel revolution.
Foto4x4
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- Location
- East Bay, CA
Gonna smell like french (pardon, freedom) fries everywhere I go...CRASH said:
Another cause of the diesel price jack is simply the number of diesels that have been sold in the last few years. The Powerstroke, Cummins, and Duramaxx are fricken every fifth truck here.
Do you all really average ~14mpg?, damn... I'm averaging 22mpg (97 4.0 5spd 3.07) on my 30"s (have since swapped my 225's back on to save the MTs) and it likes it's 87 octane just fine. BTW... it was $2.69(87) on Sunday, haven't checked since but I expect a .05 rise at least.
- Location
- Foresthill, CA
My 4.7 liter stroker, running at 75mph on 35" tires, at 3,000 RPMs, with the A/C on and weighing just shy of 5k gets 15-16 mpg on 87 octane. Slightly better at sea level on 91 octane. NV 4500 manual.
Wifes bone stock 99 auto gets 20.5.
CRASH
Wifes bone stock 99 auto gets 20.5.
CRASH
- Location
- Harrisburg, NC
CRASH said:
Whats your secret????
