Gaging interest in a mwc florida ltc permit class

2 days would be cool with me. How formal does it need to be? Would setting in lawn chairs in the barn be OK or do you need more of a "classroom" setting?
I will discuss with JIM this evening, after all..........it's his Pig Gig. However, I don't see him having a problem with it, we've discussed obtaining LTC for a long time.
If we have to, we could even drive in to town (5 minutes) and have the classroom stuff there. I can get a place lined up for that no problem. I'm willing to help and assist in any way possible to pull this off at the Pig Gig.

Would you be willing to open it up to family members as well? I know my Dad would likely be interested as well. How many is considered a class?


Hale "lots of questions" Yes
 
BeezMan. I would probably be in as long as you haven't added any weird initiation rituals...

My interest is more timing related.

And my only question and I trust your word.. Is this worse, as good, or better than a Hoosier getting a Utah License/Permit?

Big Hank
 
Idaho non-resident covers more states then FL.

That was my thinking.....but it seems FL would be a better choice in the midwest.


Rev
 
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Rev Den said:
Idaho non-resident covers more states then FL.

That was my thinking.....but it seems FL would be a better choice in the midwest.


Rev
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Idaho requires application in-person.

to my knowledge, non-res is NOT mail-in.

If you already have a LTC that required training, in most cases this qualifies you for other states.

IMHO, one of the best non-res licenses for my out-of-state travel habits is arizona. Even though AZ has become a constitutuional carry state (non license required) they still issue a non-res permits to those who have already qualified and recieved a LTC that required the usual 8-hour basic pistol training.

there is no "best" non-res permit. It depends on your travel habits.

In answer to the class.....I guess first, I'd have to see if the pig gig is something i can accomodate schedule wise, and if the host is interested in something like this. Of course, you'd be interested in the fee structure. There are class materials, and other materials. I'd only be interested in covering my costs at this point.

It appears I owe you guys more information, so I'll work on this.

We'd have to have Jim's blessing, and I still need to check my schedule.

NaxjaMWC is really the first place I thought of for doing something like this. I wanted to establish this venture amoung good folks who aren't TOTAL strangers. I think it would be cool to try to get something to work, just a matter of where and when, cause it sounds like the interest is there.....

to answer some other questions....there are certain requirements for the class, and strong suggestions as to the "structure" for the classroom portion, we'd be better off with....a classroom, where only the actual participants are present. We would be subject to distractions otherwise, which would affect the overall quality of the class. There's a strict rule about not having ammo in the classroom portion, and there needs to be a certain configuration to the "range" portion. We'd need to keep the "students" isolated (relatively) with the goings awn at the pig gig. there's a test after the range period, and we could spend a few minutes on the florida application packet. A cool feature to have available is a LEO who is authorized to perform fingerprinting....MacGyver, can you do this?

more later....
 
Big Hank said:
BeezMan. I would probably be in as long as you haven't added any weird initiation rituals...

My interest is more timing related.

And my only question and I trust your word.. Is this worse, as good, or better than a Hoosier getting a Utah License/Permit?

Big Hank
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here's a strategy for you to think about....

Florida and Utah are both very popular, and it has become common pratice for UTAH-certified instructors to do a class that meets the requirements for BOTH UT and FL in one class. I am not yet UT-certified, so for now, I can only provide training that meets the requirements for training that can be provided by certified instructors for states that do NOT require ADDITIONAL state-specific certs....Like UT for instance.

Just off the top of my head....and bear in mind the regs change almost every week.....

having an FL in your pocket can be a "gateway" permit for a host of other states. Having looked at a range of possibilites, adding an additioal permit beyond a florida permit doesn't do a whole lot for you, you should consider the added cost and hassle of doing so....be able to fulfil a necessity.

for instance, FL doesn't give you NH....NH does issue non-res. does it make sense to get a NH if you have no intention of going there? Probably not. That said, I have a NH and haven't traveled there since obtaining the permit.

Arizona comes to mind, and AZ IIRC, can be obtained using an FL as your qualifying document, at leat where the training portion is concerned. I didn't use this particular "document" in my AZ app, but AZ may also allow hunter safety to satisfy requirements.

this is another good example....az does not require a permit, but it has reciprocity with NV. You could take my "florida rtc" class, but fill out the paperwork for az if you wish. AZ alone has excellent reciprocity, and IIRC, costs less than the florida permit.

FWIW, here's where a florida will NOT give you RTC:

OR,NV,CA,MN,WI,IL,ME,NY,HI,MA,CT,RI,NJ,MD,CO,MI,NH,SC =18 states


Looks like currently, adding a Utah ONLY gives you RTC in only a single additional state.....Minnesota. and another oddity: Utah honors a florida permit, but florida does not honor a utah permit.


Foregoing a Utah and adding an AZ only gives you Nevada (and this is new info that came out last week, rtc maps don't reflect this)

http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html
 
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Our records people at work do fingerprints, I will check and see what it would entail. I am assuming (I hate that word) that an LEO will do no matter what state for the fingerprinting.

This thread has been interesting reading as I've never thought about this.

mac 'my gun is like an american express card, never leave home without it' gyvr
 
If the class was closer I could possible get a group of 5 or so that would be intersted in doing this. But chicago is a little far for a 8hr class....
 
that sucks about the PA thing. Dad did his in the fall, I guess I should have gotten around to it then. Oh well, it's just a few hours away to drop it off in person.
 
Colordao is being sued for disallowing lawful permit holders from other states equal right to self-defense.

there is potential for precedence here.

if this goes our way, quite a few states that limit RTC either from narrow reciprocity or outright ban, like illinois, will find themselves piled high with even more lawsuits than they have currently.

this will be good for us.
 
My wife and I may both be interested if the cost isn't outrageous. We can get the Utah class locally but with where the cost per person is and the fact its totally useless in IL or WI right now, we can't justify the expense.
 
This just in


Wisconsins brand new carry bill looks like it will have reciprocity with any state with a compatible criminal backround check

That may mean il residents with an out of state ltc permit that meets requirements can add wi to their map

Nice!
 
Beezil said:
This just in


Wisconsins brand new carry bill looks like it will have reciprocity with any state with a compatible criminal backround check

That may mean il residents with an out of state ltc permit that meets requirements can add wi to their map

Nice!
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Sweet! I'd like to get up that way one day and see all the MWC cheeseheads....including Josh!
 
i like guns and beezil!
 
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