Ford guys are bowing down

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We have a Ranger at work, and i could beat that thing on foot...


It is rather funny though that those guys are all saying somthing to the tune of "Sure, he could beat me when i am stock, but wait untill i get a cherry bomb muffler and a KNN, then he will see whats up" Somehow, the large availibility and low cost of bolt on performance mods has tricked younger gearheads into beliving they are pro street racers when they got cat back exhausts.
 
there might be 4 guys on that whole site that actually have a "offroad" set up.

anyway, in this thread lets change it to a "who would win offroad" thread. I really don't care about the racing part but I assume it will come down to a put up or shut up kinda thing to just get it settled.

both of us have LSD's
 
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Ha Ha, that's quite funny. I have a 94 Ranger XLT 4.0 with 5" and 33's and I'd admit it's got pretty good torque due to it's fairly low gearing. But once the motor hit's about 4000rpm or so it takes a crap and quits pulling. We all know that a healthy stock Jeep 4 liter will rip right to the rev limiter. And not to mention the fact that a Jeep 4.0 is very restricted intake and exhaust wise from the factory!
 
I read that thread over and found it funny how most of the ford guys are telling the one dude that he's gonna loose, and then he rseponds all bad ass and gets ****y. Guess the truth hurts. go Jeep. :D
 
Yeup, It's kinda comical how guys can compare a stock Ranger to a XJ with 33's and say that the Ford killed the Jeep. Or vise versa! Or owe it to the fact that they've got the intake pipe or cat back and that it made the difference! Haha. It just don't make sense unless the rigs are even remotely comparable, eh? Regardless, HO 4.0's are wound tite, nuff said.
 
I had a bronco II a few years ago. It ran 6.5 inches of lift with cut fenders and 33's. It had a detroit in the 7.5, and a lockright in the 28. It would break axles if I tought about rocks just sitting in it. Even though 36's would have fit no problems, I could not keep axles in it with 33s. I know with out a doubt my xj would embarass it on the trail. I just think its funny some people with a ranger would talk shit about a jeep, when I doubt any of them has owned a evenly mildly built jeep. ( I know they are talking about rangers, but the bronco has the same running gears, so basically the same thing). To each his own.
 
From reading their posts, it seems they don't understand that the Jeep 4.0 has a flat torque curve throughout its RPM range. Of course, I've never seen torque graphs for the Ranger's engine, but I doubt IT has such a consistent supply of torque.

As to whether a stock XJ is better than a stock Ranger offroad (duh!), even they should know the Ranger just doesn't have the turning radius & departure angles to compete w/an XJ. And they're made by Ford -- it's like being born with original sin -- thus the Ranger's heritage is a tragic one. Jeeps aren't perfect, but at least they have a worthy heritage & don't fall apart out of the box (except they do, in some small parts like the sensors, I guess).

Anyway, I don't need to tell you guys this stuff . . . I just don't want to waste the time to register on the Ranger board!
 
I had a '03 Explorer Sport 2 door 5 speed 2wd shock me a few weeks back. He lined up against me at a stop light on hwy 316 and we hit it when the light turned green. I didnt really take him seriously so I didn't really try to launch on him just hit the gas about 3/4 throttle and expected to embarrass him. I looked over and he was still there about a half a car length back so I floored it and he held the half car length till we had to let off at a little over 60 since there was traffic ahead. I would have let off soon anyway since street racing is stupid and dangerous, but I was shocked since I've got an intake, custom high flow exhaust, bored throttle body, etc on my Jeep and I'm only running 235s on my Jeep with the stock height suspension and its only got 90k miles on it.

For the record, I hate Fords with a passion.
 
ignorant. nameplate prejudice. i've owned a ranger and an xj, both had their attributes and downsides. the ford was actually the torquier of the two, but the jeep is faster. the jeep is also 4wd and the ranger wasn't. i can't defend the offroad abilities of the ranger, because it was 2wd. however the ttb suspension offers a lot of travel and works well in high speed off road situations. most of the desert guys run ford ttb because the travel is so good even in stock form. the ranger's biggest downside was not being 4wd. other than that it had the jeep bested in most areas. the jeep is better looking though. the ranger had a much higher quality interior and everything felt more substantial. the drawback is weight. the jeep even with 4wd would smoke it. balance with the jeep is better also, it handles better on and off road, and there is really no comparison in traction. unless the ranger had something in the bed, it was nearly impossible to not spin the tires on the road, yet alone off road. anyhow, they are both good vehicles. this brand loyalty thing has gone too far. it leads to lack of thought. just accept that other brands have good things about them too. btw, the acronyms for ford have been old and annoying for years, longer than i've been alive. "found on road dead" is just witless baseless bullshit chevy guys made up because it didn't take a lot of thought. have fun!
 
The funniest thing is, after that one guy said Rangers can flex better than Cherokee's, all the pictures being posted was of flexin' XJ's. I didn't see a single flexin' Ranger pic......Goes nobody over there can photochop cause that's the only way to see one flex! :laugh3:
 
its one thing to drive up on a ramp or rock and show off your flex. its quite another to catch air and have the suspension take it. rangers dont ramp well. when you have ifs the low side comes off the gound way early because the high side isnt forcing it down. in low speed situations this is a problem unless you have a locker. at high speed the ifs is superior. rangers have around 12" of travel stock..that is a pretty good number, especially for IFS. and if its a 4.0 like mine, they have an excellent rear axle. its not the 31 spline explorer 8.8, but it is waay stronger than a dana 35 still.
 
Unless, of course, your Cherokee has a D44.


Been there, done that with a Ranger. They make nice little trucks but I'll take my Cherokee anyday for offroad and reliability.
 
no, unfortunately it doesn't, its a 1992. i think the 28 spline 8.8 is still stonger than the 44. check out this month' four wheeler, they have some numbers...mmm...numbers
 
Like I said before, I had a bronco II. It had longer radius arms with heims on the back. It flexed just as well as most bolt on xj kits, but the suspension didn't work as well slow as a straight axle. Over the fast stuff no compasion, the bronco had less unsprung weight. Both have there strong points and weakness, but for crawling the xj works much better, in my opinon. By the way, my bronco had headers, after market cam, and head work. It would smoke any 4.0 I have driven. It didn't have the tourqe at crawling speeds the xj has though.
 
Over the past years I've owned 3 Xj's and 1 MJ, my brother has owned 3 Rangers. All have been good reliable vehicles. I've pulled his Rangers all over the creation! never once has he had to pull me!.
He rode with me on some wheeling trips this spring, after crawling through some obstacles we had just saw some bigger better equipped rigs having trouble with, he turned to me with a timid grin and said "where do you think we could pick me up one of these things". He traded his Ranger for a 97 XJ, I haven't had to pull him since, he thinks he's in a top fuel dragster on the street after driving the Rangers.
The only offroad advantage on the Rangers I ever saw was the rear suspension, had a long leaf springs that worked very well, not good enough to keep up with an Xj though hehe!
 
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