For those that doubt Yukon Axles

That video means nothing to me. There's a huge difference between lab testing, and field testing. If the real word offroaders are out there saying that Yukon is crap because it broke on them when others didn't, then that is more powerful of a message to me than Yukon putting together their own testing video. My 2 cents.
 
Guys the diameter looks the same in all of the tests. I have a hard time believing that any respectable company would publish something like this using different axles. But maybe I have too much faith :dunno:
 
While I don't have the most extensive wheeling background I have seen a few dana 30 shafts break. They were all on the driver's side and due to shock loading. Becuase of this I personally would trade maximum torque rating for ductability. I have read that the longfield shafts will twist something like 180 degrees in certain applications and spring back to normal.
I had some conversations with 10 factory about this and they talked about how the actually heat treat short side shafts differently to try to equalize the behaviour of the different length shafts.

That said Robert talked me into Yukon shafts. I am quite sure something else will let go in my dana 30 before the shafts regardless of what brand they are.
 
Milford Cubicle II said:
Guys the diameter looks the same in all of the tests. I have a hard time believing that any respectable company would publish something like this using different axles. But maybe I have too much faith :dunno:
Click to expand...

Numbers pulled quickly from google, may not be 100% on but close enough for the point I am making below.

Dana 28 23 spline 1.00"
Dana 30 27 spline 1.16"
Dana 30 30 spline 1.31"
Dana 35 27 spline 1.17"
Dana 44 19 spline 1.16"
Dana 44 30 spline 1.31"
Dana 60 35 spline 1.5"
Chrysler 8.25 27 spline 1.17"
Chrysler 8.25 29 spline 1.21"
Ford 8.8 31 spline 1.32"
Ford 9 31 spline 1.33"
Ford 9 28 spline 1.19"


Can you tell a tenth or hundredth of an inch visually, in a low res video with motion? I have had every one of those axle shafts in my hands in the last year, and *I* can't....
 
Come on cal, do you honestly think that Yukon (Or anyone) would seriously do a testing like that and do like a D60 shaft against a D30 shaft?

All I can say about all you people saying what you are about yukon in a negitive way, is that Yukon has clearly shown (not only in this video but more so in my personal experience in teh last year for sure) that they have the best customer service to start, and that they have the strongest shafts. Peroid.

I have dealt with warranty issues with other companies, and unless you KNOW someone at those other companies, good luck with a hassle free warranty. They all want the shaft (or other part) back in thier hands, then depending on who you are and how you approached the issue with them, they may just take care of it for you or they will find a easy issue why its not covered.

Yukon will just warranty the shaft without question or hassle. Not to mention if you go with thier hardcore series (about 1/2 the $ of the other company that offers USA made shafts) you get a refined and revised for the better, Warn shaft. They bought Warn and all engineering drawings and methods, then refined those for the better.

I really thought it was clear and easy to see in that video, what it was made to show. But forgot that people at times dont care to see the obvoius and still try to rebutle the obvious, how ever possible.
 
Geez more entertainment this forum just keeps on giving

I still say real world testing and comparison is way more realistic to judge a product like this. Id respect the results a lot more if it were done by anyone other than the companies involved I've seen way to many skewed results to trust a direct participant let along the one that comes out so cleanly on top. And to be clear I'm not talking about the companies policies or service just the results of said test.
 
ROBERTK said:
Come on cal, do you honestly think that Yukon (Or anyone) would seriously do a testing like that and do like a D60 shaft against a D30 shaft?
Click to expand...

Cal was making a point that Milford wouldnt be able to visually point out the shaft differences via a video. Not that Yukon would compare apples to oranges.
 
I trust Roberts opinion and if he says the Yukons are the best quality I believe him. I also know that if I have any issue with something I buy from him, he will take care of me. That's what creates return customers.
 
ROBERTK said:
Come on cal, do you honestly think that Yukon (Or anyone) would seriously do a testing like that and do like a D60 shaft against a D30 shaft?
Click to expand...

As Josh said, I was responding to someone saying they all look the same to them.. ;)


ROBERTK said:
All I can say about all you people saying what you are about yukon in a negitive way, is that Yukon has clearly shown (not only in this video but more so in my personal experience in teh last year for sure) that they have the best customer service to start, and that they have the strongest shafts. Peroid.
Click to expand...

The last year *AINT <POOPIE>*. A reputation is something that is built over time by a history of service. Yukon has a history of poor quality products and third rate service. The fact they may be trying to change that does not change that it IS their history. So they bought out Warn's axle division. As someone who recently broke a Warn shaft, I can tell you that the end result for the average customer is that warranty'ing out a legitmate Warn shaft became more difficult. Randy's has non sponsors spamming our tech forums with how great the products are and how the service is so much better than everyone else .. is that the new and improved service I should look for?


ROBERTK said:
I have dealt with warranty issues with other companies, and unless you KNOW someone at those other companies, good luck with a hassle free warranty. They all want the shaft (or other part) back in thier hands, then depending on who you are and how you approached the issue with them, they may just take care of it for you or they will find a easy issue why its not covered.
Click to expand...

Sound less shiesty on the phone? Other people do not have that experiance. Go read Alloy-USA testimonials on PBB, stories of people who had called Alloy from Moab or The Badlands and had warranty parts next day'd out to them at campgrounds with a verbal "fax me a copy of your paperwork when you get home, and have fun wheeling.". You can tell us how great their service is until you are blue in the face, it won't change that at the end of the day, the competitors have earned better reputations.

ROBERTK said:
Yukon will just warranty the shaft without question or hassle. Not to mention if you go with thier hardcore series (about 1/2 the $ of the other company that offers USA made shafts) you get a refined and revised for the better, Warn shaft. They bought Warn and all engineering drawings and methods, then refined those for the better.
Click to expand...

Just like the competitors warranty stuff without question or hassle.. but they are late to that game. :/

ROBERTK said:
I really thought it was clear and easy to see in that video, what it was made to show. But forgot that people at times dont care to see the obvoius and still try to rebutle the obvious, how ever possible.
Click to expand...


What was obvious about the video? The fact they flashed some numbers on the screen? It may or may not have shown a superior product .. but as i have said before...

AT THE END OF THE DAY, YUKON EARNED THE REPUTATION THEY HAVE.

People don't dislike them for being stronger, cheaper, and easier to deal with..
 
Wow cal, did they pee in your cherio's or what? Go find a Yukon issue on PBB in the last year? I would bet they are with people buying very olld products, or used products, etc? Now go find superior issues. Just FYI Foote (superior) had such bad axles lately that they will admit that thier import is stronger then thier USA made stuff on some runs.
 
ROBERTK said:
Wow cal, did they pee in your cherio's or what? Go find a Yukon issue on PBB in the last year? I would bet they are with people buying very olld products, or used products, etc? Now go find superior issues. Just FYI Foote (superior) had such bad axles lately that they will admit that thier import is stronger then thier USA made stuff on some runs.
Click to expand...

How does superior having a bad run change yukons reputation?

And that doesnt surprise me at all. India has better metallurgy than most American shops do these days. I don't want to say that I like it, but American made does not mean its the best.
 
Every manufacturer will have problems its how they fix it that shows the metal they are made of. Lets face it the rep didn't happen overnight and it won't be repaired any faster. I think you both need cracker hugs
 
Robert brings up drag racing, and hondas is the first name you people think of?

Honestly, I would have liked to see a stock shaft tested alongside these aftermarket ones. Also why not include the application.

I have not personally snapped a shaft like in the video, Its always U-joints failing and wiping the shaft out, or yoke ears giving up the fight. This type of info would make for a much more compelling video. So step it up Yukon!
 
Hey Robert, do you happen to know what shafts were actually used? And if not, ya think you could find out? I think that would help a lot.

Because other than (possibly) not using the same shafts this would be a very scientific experiment. And I can appreciate any company who bothers to openly test their products so I'm not sure why some people are getting overly critical of the testing procedure. Sure, one simple test is not wholly encapsulating but it certainly goes to show the material/design strength at least.
 
Ok some specific...

Shafts tested we all aquired from the various manufacture/suppliers within the last 4 months.

The exact shaft tested was a Bronco Short side inner shaft.

Yukon part number for thier shafts were a 39143

They were 30 spline, and the spline was all slipped in to the same exact tool at the spline side, and the ujoint side had a tooling bar that fit the U-Joint ID opening and then axle ears were centered on the bar, and locked in with collars..

The splined tool, then started to apply torque...

The rest you can see what happens...

What other questions would you like answered in regards to this test?

A significant reason for the strength of a axle and the ability to survive, is the heat treating.
 
Well then there ya go, it officially was a scientific experiment. FWIW. And as with all scientific experiments while it's low, there is a margin of error. Take from it what you want but for me, this test says a lot.

Thanks for the info Rob!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

B
Sluggish Steering
Replies
3
Views
202
RCP Phx
R
Demonoid369
At my wits end. Computer issues
Replies
7
Views
312
Tim_MN
Tim_MN
L
Best heavy duty ball joint for wj knuckles?
Replies
14
Views
719
Rockwood
R
macgyvr
***Trail Communications***
Replies
0
Views
91
macgyvr
macgyvr
RagnarTheDakotan
2001 Jeep Cherokee Classic New Build
Replies
3
Views
91
Anak
Anak
Back
Top