Lol, I happen to be close enough to call it in your neck of the woods and I can say that even in your mud and grass fields wheeling, thornbirds do absolutely nothing but throw grass and mud. now if that's what you're into, go for it, but other than that, they really do suck. You'd be suprised what you can learn and apply out here from all those guys out west. If I'm not mistaken, they only try to lift as little as possiable to lower their center of gravity, so if their 6" lifts or whatever you consider excessive is what they call as low as they can, then well......stfu because their shit must be damn harder and take much more skill than your grass and mud. I'd really like to help with your question, but the more and more that I type, I get more and more frustrated with people and their stubborn assed attitudes and their unwilligness to listen to peoples reasons for doing what they do. Quit judging other people and just work on your little jeep. From what your attitude is saying right now, you're not gonna listen to us and our advice anyhow, so yeah, go for it.