Factory Rear steering D44?

[Lowrange2]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DANA...ptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

This is a new one on me. Out of an air port truck... Idk that it's a 44 tho. D44 was one of the keywords.

 

[xjtrailrider]

That's cool but replacement parts like axle shafts are gonna be hard to come by.

Looks to be a D-44 center section but hard to tell from the pic for sure.

 

[Team Willys]

If you got it you would need to swap in some RCVs so you didn't have to worry about breakage. The good thing about it is that a disc brake swap would be cake!

 

[shortxjdoug]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DANA...ptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

This is a new one on me. Out of an air port truck... Idk that it's a 44 tho. D44 was one of the keywords.

d44s are pretty common in heavy equip..... aiport tugs, road construction equip etc. (a lot of pavement scrapers and the ones with the big rotating brush have them) they even came in self propelled ditch witches, however the wms on the ditch witch version is about a foot and a half. of course i think i would make a rear steer 44 go boom pretty quick no matter what was in it

 

[Lowrange2]

Very true, That's kinda what I was thinking...

 

[old_man]

How would a HP rear steer be any different than a HP front steer. Since it was not really made for highway speeds, I would bet it runs on the coast side just as a front would do if moved to the rear. It is also a tad narrow.

 

[Lowrange2]

So the only right way (If there was a right way) to make a rear steer 44 would be use the center section of a rear 44 (LP) and put tubes, shafts and outers off of a front 44 in it... Then you'd have to link it...

 

[Team Willys]

How would a HP rear steer be any different than a HP front steer. Since it was not really made for highway speeds, I would bet it runs on the coast side just as a front would do if moved to the rear. It is also a tad narrow.

A front High Pinion runs on the drive side of the gear because the teeth are reverse cut. A front Low Pinion runs on the coast side of the gear. As far as I know, all factory rear 44s are low pinon, but fronts can be either. The axle in the ebay listing appears to be low pinion from the pictures, so as long as it had good ball joints and RCV shafts, it would be as strong or stronger than a regular D44 rear.

 

[old_man]

A front High Pinion runs on the drive side of the gear because the teeth are reverse cut. A front Low Pinion runs on the coast side of the gear. As far as I know, all factory rear 44s are low pinon, but fronts can be either. The axle in the ebay listing appears to be low pinion from the pictures, so as long as it had good ball joints and RCV shafts, it would be as strong or stronger than a regular D44 rear.

You are incorrect in your assertion that a low pinion D44 runs on the coast side of the gear. The low pinion gears are cut so that they run on the drive side of the gear. That is why you have to specify wether you have a low pinion or high pinion.

 

[ROBZ95Xj]

that axle would be awsome out back a willys or zuk

 

[Lowrange2]

That's my thinkin. I'm not gunna do it but it's be pretty cool.

 

[old_man]

A lot of competition guys get a high pinion D60 and remove the knuckles and move it to the back in order to get the drive shaft up and away from rocks. The D60 is strong enough that it works fine on the coast side, but they would make a lot of noise on the road and probably would wear pretty quickly. A Hi9 would be a class way to go, but it gets pretty spendy.

 

[256offroad]

A lot of competition guys get a high pinion D60 and remove the knuckles and move it to the back in order to get the drive shaft up and away from rocks. The D60 is strong enough that it works fine on the coast side, but they would make a lot of noise on the road and probably would wear pretty quickly. A Hi9 would be a class way to go, but it gets pretty spendy.

doubt it.... ive scene SEVERAL pro rock 60 rears blow apart as a result of being a hp axle

 

[Team Willys]

You are incorrect in your assertion that a low pinion D44 runs on the coast side of the gear. The low pinion gears are cut so that they run on the drive side of the gear. That is why you have to specify wether you have a low pinion or high pinion.

No, I am not incorrect... in a front application, moving forward, a low pinion axle is powered on the coast side of the gear. In a rear application, moving forward, a low pinion axle is powered on the drive side of the gear. My post was about using that housing in a rear application; if it's low pinion (appears to be in the photos) then it would be just as strong in the rear as any other D44 rear, as long as it had good shafts and ball joints that could handle the weight.

This is why a high pinion front axle is more desirable than a low pinion front axle, because a high pinion axle, when moving forward, in a front application, is powered on the drive side of the gear instead of on the coast side like a low pinion front would be. Its common knowledge in the off road world. It's why it is not recommended to run a high pinion rear axle (even though a lot of buggy guys do it with aftermarket housings such as the pro rock 60 or rock jock), because a high pinion axle, when used in the rear, moving forward, is powered on the coast side of the gear. It would only be powered on the drive side if you were driving in reverse.

I don't think I can clear that up anymore, but if you still don't believe me, try doing a little searching around on here or Pirate... you'll find a lot of information about it.

 

[Ghost]

A Hi9 would be a class way to go, but it gets pretty spendy.

Especially when you blow 3 of them up. Even when the gears are cryo'd.

 

[256offroad]

No, I am not incorrect... in a front application, moving forward, a low pinion axle is powered on the coast side of the gear. In a rear application, moving forward, a low pinion axle is powered on the drive side of the gear. My post was about using that housing in a rear application; if it's low pinion (appears to be in the photos) then it would be just as strong in the rear as any other D44 rear, as long as it had good shafts and ball joints that could handle the weight.

This is why a high pinion front axle is more desirable than a low pinion front axle, because a high pinion axle, when moving forward, in a front application, is powered on the drive side of the gear instead of on the coast side like a low pinion front would be. Its common knowledge in the off road world. It's why it is not recommended to run a high pinion rear axle (even though a lot of buggy guys do it with aftermarket housings such as the pro rock 60 or rock jock), because a high pinion axle, when used in the rear, moving forward, is powered on the coast side of the gear. It would only be powered on the drive side if you were driving in reverse.

I don't think I can clear that up anymore, but if you still don't believe me, try doing a little searching around on here or Pirate... you'll find a lot of information about it.

correcto! same reason why you have to flip the axles in a rear engine buggy! other wise when you put it into drive you would back up instead of move foreward :roll: