Elections

[Jeepguy91]

Well said JakeWI.

 

[terrehautian]

Honestly, I don't know if you consider me a "younger" person or not, but I do not feel like I could do any jobs in the BOD right now. Maybe in a year or so.

 

[99SJ_Ex]

I've ran the past several years for various positions, I guess my personality and answers to questions haven't won too many over, I still try to do my fair share at WF and such, but one thing I have to say is when I talked about volunteering several years ago for the WF Committee and other things I was basically told by several BOD at the time that I'm too far remote from the 'core group/area' to be of much service...

Now had someone directly asked me if I was interested in running, I would have said yes and put my name in for Recorder or VP, but for now I'll sit content with what I have been doing.

 

[Fore Wheeler]

Rev obviously doesn't like me for some reason that I can only guess. Whatever.

I'm curious tho, during my last two years as president what have I done to make the chapter worse?

I can tell you in the last two years, members camp for free at wf, and last year we did a special no cost raffle for a go pro, we started Barbie Jeep racing, we updated the wf logo (which we are doing again this year), I have been involved in EVERY national bod meeting representing the mwc, not to mention there has been no issues with our chapter. We have the strongest chapter in naxja.

So I ask, what is the problem?

Maybe no one is running for president because I'm doing a good job. Please, tell me if I'm not.

 

[Fore Wheeler]

....one more thing, why rev, if you're so concerned about the well being of the chapter, did you wait until there ~24 hours of nominations to start asking questions? It seems you have a personal agenda, not a true concern for the club, otherwise you would be more active.

 

[macgyvr]

The young guys are the future of this club, they need to step up and get control. Without it, they will always be considered second class by some.

Can you clarify this for me?

Do you mean younger in age or in time as a member?

Either way Kman is both if you did a little research, he's running for recorder.

mac 'thanks' gyvr

 

[macgyvr]

I'm usually pretty silent on these matters, and I respect your opinion Rev. But the statement that the younger members need to step up is BS. The age doesn't matter. We need people with passion to lead the club. It doesn't matter how long they have been a member; If they have passion for the club and are willing to work for the members and with the BOD they will likely be a positive influence.

Well said, Jim.

We should be thankful that we have folks that are willing to step up. There are several chapters that struggle to get folks to run. We have THREE people running for recorder, how awesome is that!

mac '35 is not old, still got the passion' gyvr

 

[kmanxj5050]

Can you clarify this for me?

Do you mean younger in age or in time as a member?

Either way Kman is both if you did a little research, he's running for recorder.

mac 'thanks' gyvr

Almost the same question I asked that he skipped around.

Well said, Jim.

We should be thankful that we have folks that are willing to step up. There are several chapters that struggle to get folks to run. We have THREE people running for recorder, how awesome is that!

mac '35 is not old, still in denial' gyvr

FIFY


Rev, I think you are just using the "young" thing because you are clearly mad that no one is running against Dan or Mac, because you have taken no low blows against any of the three of us that are running for recorder. And that's fine, I dont like everybody either. But have you sat back and thought that maybe no body wants to run against either of them? That the majority of the MWC members feel that they are the best fit for the job?

But since you don't feel that way you are going to try and just start shit with everyone instead of running? I feel that if you truely cared about the club so much you would run again or for pres (I don't give a damn if you have a jeep or not, being passionate about the club should be enough)!!!!!!!! Mac drives a damn TJ for Pete's sake, and he is our national president!!!!

 

[99SJ_Ex]

Mac drives a damn TJ for Pete's sake, and he is our national president!!!!

.... Suspicious.......

Is our club secretly being controlled by a TJ-lover?!??


:hang:

:scottm:

 

[RAM-ROD]

I'm usually pretty silent on these matters, and I respect your opinion Rev. But the statement that the younger members need to step up is BS. The age doesn't matter. We need people with passion to lead the club. It doesn't matter how long they have been a member; If they have passion for the club and are willing to work for the members and with the BOD they will likely be a positive influence.

Well said Jim. I find this extremely funny REV. Very clear you do not like the current BOD members. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM wonder why...Is it because you are not in close to total control of the club? Your past Work and time you have spent working on the BOD and with the club is appreciated but I have to tell you your current ( well not so current being this has been going on since I beat Susie) Stand is joke...You want some of the "Younger members to step up? I would love the same thing to happen. A member does not just wake up and say hey I think I would like to be Prez or VP today.... The more we try to make the chapter even better for ALL MEMBERS, The more work there is. Their is a big difference between posting what you would like to do and actually getting it done. I guess we are talking about the same "younger members" that talk all year about what they are going to do then can not even make it to WF.......

If you think making the most important event for our chapter is going to be tough you may not have what it takes to get everything else done.

There are lots of way you can help the club like Flex said and not be on the BOD.You can help in many ways at WF. You could have made the trip to Moab and helped out with the dinner the MWC put on Like many non BOD members did. You can run the ROTM Like Rew does..........

Ram" Wade used the correct word for this thread" Rod

 

[SAMSET]

I dont think Rev is wrong for questioning why we only have 1 member running in both VP and Pres. I too, thought it was interesting. However, I feel Dan did a good job as pres, as far as the free camping and GoPro and overall participation(I was not paying close attention before Dan was pres, so Im not comparing to previous pres)

As far as VP is considered I feel most "younger" members are a little nervous of jumping in with both feet to a higher position. I would think the common thought process would be an "easier" job 1st. Now is that a good way of thinking? Im not sure, but if I was asked to run for VP I would probably turn it down because I have no experience in BOD positions. What needs to happen, is folks in positions like recorder and DAL, that like the politics of an online forum, need to attempt to move up. So the way I see it, you have 3 people running for recorder, this is a step that shows they are interested in being more someday...Maybe.

I also think a lot has to do with frequent member participation. You can look at a thread like Important for instance and see that there is a few folks that are there daily. This is something I think about as far as the BOD is considered. Not that you have to be a post whore to be BOD, but that you should visit the sight on a regular basis. IMO once a week is not good enough.

I personally am not a very political man, therefor I do not read to deep into elections. I know that I did not renew membership in time which means it is less than a year, I know that Im not a candidate for anything.

With all that said, If someone does not like Dan or Mac for those positions, they should run themselves.
Simple.

 

[SAMSET]

Also what may be helpful in future elections, is maybe a stickie that has very detailed information about what each BOD position requires.

To those that have no idea whats behind the scenes, you just don't know what you are going to be doing, so you just don't do it.


Or is it just me that hasn't got a clue what these jobs do?

 

[RAM-ROD]

I would not say you do not have a clue Sam.....It's just .....and I think Rev would even agree...Lots more goes on behind the scene than most know to pull off what this chapter pulls off compared to the other chapters....

The Idea of a stickie of what the position entails is a great idea....But the BOD members that shine go way above those duties....

Ram" Hard to put everything that is done in a stickie" Rod

 

[99SJ_Ex]

Ram" Hard to put everything that is done in a stickie" Rod

Hard yes, but not impossible. A thread that shows what the 'responsibilities' are in the by-laws is an absolute minimum. Now what could be done beyond that is simply having each BoD member post up some of their other typical duties/jobs they have been doing so that members can get an idea of what IS going on 'behind the scenes'. I don't think that would be very hard at all to post up and it would be very insightful for those thinking of running.

Speaking from experience of running several clubs/associations in my college career, I know what typically goes on, but someone that has never had those experiences will typically have no clue. Spending 15 minutes to put something together shouldn't be like pulling teeth.

99SJ 'Clear as mud?' Ex

 

[RAM-ROD]

I think one other thing that is missing in this thread is the point of why some of the younger members are not jumping right into running....

You do not just wake up and say hey I think I will run to be President /VP of our chapter. Ok maybe you will be successful and maybe not.....

What happens after this person wins? Sure the past President / VP will help them get started but they are not going to do the job for them. So how exactly does a person that has not really been to many if any events or even sat on a board before know what to do or what direction to even go?

Hence the reason it's a good idea for the "younger or new guys" to get their feet wet in
the recorder and DAL positions....

Again...yes this is an online jeep club but that has nothing to do with 90% of what the BOD does. Moderating this page is about 2% of what is done....

 

[XJosh95]

From By-laws Article VI, Section 2

1. There shall be four Officers: President, Vice President, Treasurer, Recorder and 5 Directors. The decision-making authority rank shall flow in the order listed above, with the President possessing the highest level. This authority rank is only applicable in decision-making circumstances where a Board of Directors vote is not feasible, such as during an Event.
2. Appointments, delegates and committee positions may be held by any member of the Board of Directors, whether an Officer or not.
3. Chairman of the Board: The elected President shall serve as the Chairman of the Board of Directors, and shall preside over all Board of Directors activities.
4. The Vice President shall keep himself fully informed concerning the business of the Corporation with the active assistance of the other Officers and, in the event of the absence or temporary disability of the President or a vacancy in the office of President, shall assume and carry out the duties and responsibilities of the President. The Vice President shall also perform such other duties as may from time to time be assigned to him/her by the President or by the Board of Directors.
5. The Recorder shall be responsible for ascertaining that a complete record is kept of all activities of the Corporation. In carrying out this duty, he/she shall cooperate with and supervise the performance of the Corporation’s Internet web site host and Internet Service Provider, in order to ensure that legally required and necessary records of the Corporation’s activities are maintained in such manner as to survive electronic error and/or failure. The Recorder shall further act as the Agent of Record for the Corporation and shall ensure that all filings, reports, and other documents and papers necessary to the maintenance of the Corporation’s legal standing are submitted to the appropriate authorities in a timely fashion.
6. The Treasurer shall have the care and custody of all funds of the Corporation. He/she shall receive all monies, pay all bills, and keep true and accurate accounting of all monies received and dispersed. He/she shall, at the conclusion of each fiscal year of the Corporation, render to the Board of Directors a full and complete written statement of the condition of the Corporation, as well as of all monies received and dispersed during the period covered by the report. He/she shall sign such contracts, documents or instruments in writing as required, and shall have such other powers and duties as may be assigned from time to time by the Board of Directors or as incident to his/her office.
7. The Directors will be directors at large and will take on duties as needed throughout the course of their term

 

[Fore Wheeler]

What's your point? That's for the national bod.

 

[jjchgo]

With all that said, If someone does not like Dan or Mac for those positions, they should run themselves.
Simple.

THIS!

cheers,

jj

 

[99SJ_Ex]

Originally Posted by SAMSET View Post
With all that said, If someone does not like Dan or Mac for those positions, they should run themselves.
Simple.

I like them, but I'm gona run for VP. Thus ends the point of this entire thread for the most part.

 

[seanR]

Re: Re: Elections

What's your point? That's for the national bod.

Last I knew the MWC bi laws mirror the national.