Does anyone have a K&N FIPK?

[DBenz]

Hey guys,

Was wondering if anyone had the actual real deal and if they'd be willing to show me (us) the dimensions of the heat shield, what it's made of and where it mounts to? Like many others, I'm making my own and would like to utilize the hood as a natural sealer on the top but am curious what the real deal is made of and how. Thanks in advance,

Derek

 

[raypla]

I just bought one. It mounts to the driverside wheel well, and is made of 14-16ga metal. The 90* is right were the pipe goes inbetween the heatshield and hood. Id go get measurements but its like 10 degrees outside.

 

[DBenz]

Ok, so form what I gather, there's a piece of metal that goes under the filter, then it bends and goes right up beside it? This would cover up all the tiny round holes in the wheel well and block heat/water also. What contour is the top of the piece that mates with the hood to make a seal? Thanks again

 

[raypla]

It is flat except were it allows the air tube to pass through, Do you have acces to a metal break? Do you want me to go get the measurements, I have it in my garage now.

I was a sheet metal mech. for 5 yrs so I could explain pretty well how to bend it up.

It also has rubber gasket where it comes close to the hood, I dont believe it touches.

 

[raypla]

Here ya go

Well here we go, If your looking at the XJ head on there is a piece 12.75" long and 11.75" tall parallel to the engine. Then in front of the master cylinder resevoir it does a 90 for 8". At the 90 it is ushaped so that the air tube fits through and its 8.25" tall at the 90. Once it heads over to the driverside fender it follows the contour of the fender w/about a 1/2" gap, w/ the gasket on, between the heatshield and the fender.

The heatshield is fastened by the same nut (with a 3/16" spacer and a fender washer between the nut and the heatshield) as the one that came out of the stock airbox in front of the master cylinder resevoir on the inside of the heatshield. The front of the heatshield is fastened by an L bracket that bolts to the fender w/ 1/4 20 bolt and lock nut, on the underside of the fender, w/a washer and a rubber washer underneath the heatshield and a washer between the bolt and heatshield.

It has some type of rubber round style gasket that goes all the way around the sides and top of the heatshield that is about .5"tall.

Performance gains: Its hard to tell if it was the FIPK alone, because I installed a 62 mm TB at the same time
http://www.thefastman.com/Throttlebodies40.asp
together they made a very noticeble dif. smoother shifting, faster accel, especially around 2500 rpms.
Ill really notice a difference when I install my full exhaust system, I figure they'll all work together for the greater good of my 4.0.
Oh yea 99 sport pre abs.

 

[DBenz]

I'm trying to make a drawing to apply the measurements to. I had this rough idea, but it's not 3-D, so you can't see the back part where the tube goes through that piece. I would like to include a bottom piece to block off the tiny holes in the fender well.

And the real thing:

 

[raypla]

that FIPK is not for the XJ. the one 4 the XJ isnt attached in the middle, and the filter is farther away from the heatshield (about 6-8"). it just does a 90 and its shapped that the tube is about flush w/ the top of the heatshield.
If your concerned w/the holes just silicone them.
now that I think about it you could just bend a 2-3" flange ( what ever is necessary) and use that as your L bracket

 

[DBenz]

I didn't look closely at the last picture, this one shows the I6. This afternoon, I started doing it the old fashioned way. I took out some cardboard and started fabbing up a template for an all around heat shield.

You say that the hood doesn't make a seal with that rubber stuff on top of the sheild?

The arc that the K&N tub makes it much easier to place the filter in an ideal location, rather than the stock tube with Rusty's intake tube.

 

[raypla]

This looks awful familliar.

I didn't look closely at the last picture, this one shows the I6. This afternoon, I started doing it the old fashioned way. I took out some cardboard and started fabbing up a template for an all around heat shield.

You say that the hood doesn't make a seal with that rubber stuff on top of the sheild?

The arc that the K&N tub makes it much easier to place the filter in an ideal location, rather than the stock tube with Rusty's intake tube.

It is hard to tell wether of not the heatshield butts against the hood or not. Especially when the hood is closed.

 

[DBenz]

So the sheild is 11.75" tall? If so, I will play around with my cardboard and some chalk and see if that sits snug with the hood or not. Ideally, I plan on making a cardboard template, transferring that over to AutoCAD, and then transfer that to sheetmetal.

I see that there are bolts in the sheild around the power steering fluid box, do they mount up to it?

 

[raypla]

All that bolt does is mount the L bracket to the heatshield, and then the L bracket is mounted to the fender in a little hole. The hole where the L is mounted to the heatshield is slotted allowing movement so its easier to mount.
What AutoCad program are you using?

 

[87manche]

This looks awful familliar.




It is hard to tell wether of not the heatshield butts against the hood or not. Especially when the hood is closed.

put a piece of chewing gum on it and see if the hood squishes it.

 

[raypla]

put a piece of chewing gum on it and see if the hood squishes it.

Maybe Ill try that but I really don't care much.

I just ordered up a downpipe http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?mfrcode=MAR&mfrpartnumber=349838&parttype=690&ptset=A

Doesent look too bad, next week Im going to have a Banks header, Magnaflow cat and Catback, that and some new O2 sensors all installed.

I'm anxious to have it all installed, I believe its all gonna work good together.

 

[dynamite44]

i have one. got it for 50 bucks at a junk yard.
i was walking through the steel warehouse type building and saw some metal shelves just covered with aftermarket intakes. i recognized the bend of one particular K&N intake, so i picked up the dusty mess and asked the guy i was walking with what he wanted for it. his responce was uhh, uhhh... fifty bucks.

i put a 50 in his hand before he could change his mind. maybe he didn't know what it costs new. i just cleaned the filter and put it in.

not sure if it makes a difference, but it looks very professional under the hood. other intakes just look ghetto and home-made. this is obviously designed for a specific application. it whistles a little too

 

[Wolf]

Mine.

 

[53guy]

I found that the FIPIK with a throttle body spacer hits the hood, so I kinda just chopped it in half and called it good. It works pretty well.

 

[XJedi23]

It is hard to tell wether of not the heatshield butts against the hood or not. Especially when the hood is closed.

PUt a digital camera w/timer aimed up.assgas:

 

[DBenz]

I found that the FIPIK with a throttle body spacer hits the hood, so I kinda just chopped it in half and called it good. It works pretty well.

How do you like the precharger wrap? i ordered one with my filter locally, but instead, I got the other big foam version. I guess I'll slap it on when I go wheeling or on dirt roads only.

 

[raypla]

I dont have any experience w/the pre-filter and the jeep but I do know they get dirty too fast on a 250R. It would get dirty and not breath at all and would choke the engine.

 

[53guy]

How do you like the precharger wrap? i ordered one with my filter locally, but instead, I got the other big foam version. I guess I'll slap it on when I go wheeling or on dirt roads only.

I like it pretty well. It mostly keeps water out. Not too great for dust though. It keeps large portions of dirt out, but dust does get through to the filter. I got it because when you remove your stock airbox, large holes are left in the fender where water is splashed up through and soaks the filter. It works well at that, but it's not waterproof. I put aluminum duck tape on the bottom to cover up the holes and it works much better now. I can easily go 5 oil changes without having to clean the filter where as I used to do it every other oil change.