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Why can't I find any info on people making their own stainless steel braided brake lines with this stuff?
Billy
Billy
Because it a really bad idea,all the parts are out there,but theres no substitute for "crimped" lines,and they are "dirt" cheap.Why can't I find any info on people making their own stainless steel braided brake lines with this stuff?
Billy
Because it a really bad idea,all the parts are out there,but theres no substitute for "crimped" lines,and they are "dirt" cheap.
I Work on heavy equipment most of the time on hydraulic system. seeing 2,000-8,000 psi. A Crimp hose is always better over a Compression style hose. A union sytle is not ideal but will work for a temp fix. I wouldnt trust it for a brake system. Fuel lines and powersteering is ok. Crimping is the only way to go. Like stated above there are pre-made lines avail cheap.I could accept, "It's probably not worth it" with no reasoning to back it up, but if you want me to believe it's a "really bad idea", I'm going to need more than just that!
How is it different than home-flared hard lines?
And cost isn't the only argument...
There's also efficiency; having lines that aren't too long and aren't too short...
Being able to carry bulk hose for easier trail repairs...
Being able to order the parts now, before I can take measurements...
Billy
Hard lines dont come apart!We are talking about some "serious" pressures here!I also dont think it will be cheaper,the line is pretty cheap but the fittings really add up.You also end up with more joints/connections than a pre-made line.I could accept, "It's probably not worth it" with no reasoning to back it up, but if you want me to believe it's a "really bad idea", I'm going to need more than just that!
How is it different than home-flared hard lines?
And cost isn't the only argument...
There's also efficiency; having lines that aren't too long and aren't too short...
Being able to carry bulk hose for easier trail repairs...
Being able to order the parts now, before I can take measurements...
Billy
Hard lines dont come apart!We are talking about some "serious" pressures here!I also dont think it will be cheaper,the line is pretty cheap but the fittings really add up.You also end up with more joints/connections than a pre-made line.
I did the fuel system on my mustang a while ago...the fittings were 5-8$ a piece and add up quick.Hard lines dont come apart!We are talking about some "serious" pressures here!I also dont think it will be cheaper,the line is pretty cheap but the fittings really add up.You also end up with more joints/connections than a pre-made line.
I did the fuel system on my mustang a while ago...the fittings were 5-8$ a piece and add up quick.
What is then?Ive been doing SS lines for 35 years,even braklines.But I would take a store bought brake line over making one unless it is not available(and that almost impossible these days,things were alot more limited years ago).Plus youll get a warranty!Yeah, cost wasn't so much my motivation.
Billy
I Work on heavy equipment most of the time on hydraulic system. seeing 2,000-8,000 psi. A Crimp hose is always better over a Compression style hose. A union sytle is not ideal but will work for a temp fix. I wouldnt trust it for a brake system. Fuel lines and powersteering is ok. Crimping is the only way to go. Like stated above there are pre-made lines avail cheap.
What is then?
There's also efficiency; having lines that aren't too long and aren't too short...
Being able to carry bulk hose for easier trail repairs...
Being able to order the parts now, before I can take measurements...
Billy
someone please correct me if im wrong
but i remember reading somewhere that using anything other then normal steel brake lines, will give the brake pedal a softer, spongy feeling.
this is because the insides of the stainless steel brake lines are able to flex and expand, and then your brake pedal wont be as firm or as hard., this is why vehicles use as much steel brake line as they possibly can.
there you go! i hope this info is correct.
The only reason not to run compression lines you make is that they are not DOT certified. Horse pucky on strength.
I don't trust these things on street driven vehicles that get lots of miles. They're fine for competition, or low miles, but not for long term punishment.
A notable feature of the Russel DIY lines- the swaged fitting on the rubber line actually flares out, like a trumpet. So it the fitting not cut into the hose, with repeated flexing.
I had a near accident when my Crown Performance lines self-destructed. The sharped-edged, swaged fitting cut into the clear, plastic hose sheath. That cause the braided line to kink there, and collapse. Which locked my passenger side caliper. Not good. Got so hot it burned the banjo fitting, and caliper seals. Only got about 15k on the front lines, the rear is still ok. Seems they like to bend, but not twist.
I run cheapo rubber lines again, and the pedal feel is very firm. No loss of braking whatsoever from going back to rubber brake hoses.