Re: The Colorado BS thread
HUUUUUGE!!!!!!
http://kdvr.com/2012/03/05/court-students-can-carry-guns-on-campus/
HUUUUUGE!!!!!!
http://kdvr.com/2012/03/05/court-students-can-carry-guns-on-campus/
-
Welcome to the new NAXJA Forum! If your password does not work, please use "Forgot your password?" link on the log-in page. Please feel free to reach out to [email protected] if we can provide any assistance.
Colorado B/S Thread
- Thread starter in4aride
- Start date
Joe94xj
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- colorado Springs
Re: The Colorado BS thread
That's good to hear. Too bad the make my day law for businesses was killed today.
That's good to hear. Too bad the make my day law for businesses was killed today.
xj-grin
NAXJA Member #1096
- Location
- Colorado Springs, Colorado
Re: The Colorado BS thread
Its good, but as is typical, our supreme court got the reasoning all wrong. They decided that since the legislature didn't include institutions of higher education in the specific exemptions of the Concealed Carry law, higher education was therefore not exempt. Fine, as far as it goes -- but how do a bunch of pretentious lawyers who fancy themselves constitutional scholars (sounds familiar :gee
fail to ask the question: How is exemptions to any law specifically providing for the bearing of arms, no an infringement on the right to do the same, and therefore violative of the 2nd amendment? Further, how is it that we need a state law specifically allowing people to concealed carry, when the constitution already guarantees that natural right to protect ourselves and our property?
While, I'm happy the court sided with gun rights, their reasoning sucks, and its just a matter of a few months before we see a remedial peice of legislation (also unconstitutional, no doubt) forced through to allow CU to again ban personal safety and responsibility.
Its good, but as is typical, our supreme court got the reasoning all wrong. They decided that since the legislature didn't include institutions of higher education in the specific exemptions of the Concealed Carry law, higher education was therefore not exempt. Fine, as far as it goes -- but how do a bunch of pretentious lawyers who fancy themselves constitutional scholars (sounds familiar :gee
fail to ask the question: How is exemptions to any law specifically providing for the bearing of arms, no an infringement on the right to do the same, and therefore violative of the 2nd amendment? Further, how is it that we need a state law specifically allowing people to concealed carry, when the constitution already guarantees that natural right to protect ourselves and our property?While, I'm happy the court sided with gun rights, their reasoning sucks, and its just a matter of a few months before we see a remedial peice of legislation (also unconstitutional, no doubt) forced through to allow CU to again ban personal safety and responsibility.
xj-grin
NAXJA Member #1096
- Location
- Colorado Springs, Colorado
Re: The Colorado BS thread
My personal opinion, likely not backed by the current status of the law, is that open carry is legal everywhere -- municipalities will, however, assert that they have the right to create gun free zones (i.e. schools, hospitals, etc.), so you'll undoubtedly be arrested there if you try. My guess is that the U-cops will treat you in the same manner if you try to open carry on campus, although I know there is a group that does so at UCCS, as a form of protest. Regardless, if you're going to open carry, you have to be ready for the official "harrassment" that it entails, more in some communities than others.
Nothing in the above should in any way be interpreted as my believing that private property owners and private businesses do not have the right to insist that guests on/in their properties not be armed, they most certainly do -- private action is not government action and the Constitution restricts the power of government, not individuals. That being said, you also have the right to take your business away from those that do not wish to allow you to be prepared to protect yourselves... the wonder of markets at work...
My personal opinion, likely not backed by the current status of the law, is that open carry is legal everywhere -- municipalities will, however, assert that they have the right to create gun free zones (i.e. schools, hospitals, etc.), so you'll undoubtedly be arrested there if you try. My guess is that the U-cops will treat you in the same manner if you try to open carry on campus, although I know there is a group that does so at UCCS, as a form of protest. Regardless, if you're going to open carry, you have to be ready for the official "harrassment" that it entails, more in some communities than others.
Nothing in the above should in any way be interpreted as my believing that private property owners and private businesses do not have the right to insist that guests on/in their properties not be armed, they most certainly do -- private action is not government action and the Constitution restricts the power of government, not individuals. That being said, you also have the right to take your business away from those that do not wish to allow you to be prepared to protect yourselves... the wonder of markets at work...
- Location
- Colorado Springs, CO
Re: The Colorado BS thread
How about "open dog walking." I openly walk my dog everywhere except food environments(not that I agree, but dog walking is fun, so who needs the grief), and anyplace that has a sign restricting dogs. The cool thing is that 6 out of 10 stores that we go in have dog treats. We get looks, but hey, the dog responds better to commands than most people. The point being while a gun adds an element of safety, the dog adds an element of safety, and fun.
How about "open dog walking." I openly walk my dog everywhere except food environments(not that I agree, but dog walking is fun, so who needs the grief), and anyplace that has a sign restricting dogs. The cool thing is that 6 out of 10 stores that we go in have dog treats. We get looks, but hey, the dog responds better to commands than most people. The point being while a gun adds an element of safety, the dog adds an element of safety, and fun.
bubbz22
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Johnstown, CO
Re: The Colorado BS thread
collkid
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Highlands Ranch, Colorado
Re: The Colorado BS thread
XXXX that video.
Not because it isn't important issue....
But because kids are killed and raped and molested in this country. We have some people that kidnap and mutilate people in our country. But they are kids in the projects or ghettos. Parts of towns most of you don't know are there or won't go into.
So why fix something thousands of miles away, when we don't even accept its happening down the street.
Where is your video on that???
XXXX that video.
Not because it isn't important issue....
But because kids are killed and raped and molested in this country. We have some people that kidnap and mutilate people in our country. But they are kids in the projects or ghettos. Parts of towns most of you don't know are there or won't go into.
So why fix something thousands of miles away, when we don't even accept its happening down the street.
Where is your video on that???
eflores
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Greg's place
Re: The Colorado BS thread
most of you that know me know i open carry every day. i havent been harassed by law enforcement in quite some time. most people just are curious, they want to know the laws and how its legal. from my experience more people are alarmed to see my holster empty than full. then again i dont wander around town with a gun in my wasteband. i try my hardest to be seen as a good example of a law abiding citizen.
as far as businesses go, you're right. if i cant carry in ill most certainly avoid shopping there
most of you that know me know i open carry every day. i havent been harassed by law enforcement in quite some time. most people just are curious, they want to know the laws and how its legal. from my experience more people are alarmed to see my holster empty than full. then again i dont wander around town with a gun in my wasteband. i try my hardest to be seen as a good example of a law abiding citizen.
as far as businesses go, you're right. if i cant carry in ill most certainly avoid shopping there
dannanw
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Colorado Springs
Re: The Colorado BS thread
Not sure where to put this but please vote for the black truck. Good friend of mine.
http://klaw.com/congratulations-to-our-virtual-car-show-winners/
The titan... He is a quadriplegic, happened to him at a CHCA race, he was a quad guy with me. He is a cool guy.
Not sure where to put this but please vote for the black truck. Good friend of mine.
http://klaw.com/congratulations-to-our-virtual-car-show-winners/
The titan... He is a quadriplegic, happened to him at a CHCA race, he was a quad guy with me. He is a cool guy.
eflores
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Greg's place
Re: The Colorado BS thread
took this over here mike
i dont go as often as id like cuz of work but it gives me a reason to fool around up there with the jeep.
id like to do a course like you guys were doing a few weeks ago with my pistol gripped 12gauge lol
took this over here mike
i dont go as often as id like cuz of work but it gives me a reason to fool around up there with the jeep.
id like to do a course like you guys were doing a few weeks ago with my pistol gripped 12gauge lol
NewBreedCustom
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Aurora Colorado
Re: The Colorado BS thread
Worked on a Volvo today......... Volvo's suck!!
Worked on a Volvo today......... Volvo's suck!!
- Location
- Cheyenne, Wyoming
Re: The Colorado BS thread
I want to build a gocart
I want to build a gocart
- Location
- Cheyenne, Wyoming
Re: The Colorado BS thread
and i want it to drift
and i want it to drift
- Location
- Cheyenne, Wyoming
Re: The Colorado BS thread
And i want to jump it
And i want to jump it
- Location
- Cheyenne, Wyoming
Re: The Colorado BS thread
me and buddy made this today in 12 minutes. 8 of those was me cutting through the dana 30 shaft to make the body, and the rest was welding and paint.
Looks better painted. Anyone want ?
me and buddy made this today in 12 minutes. 8 of those was me cutting through the dana 30 shaft to make the body, and the rest was welding and paint.
Looks better painted. Anyone want ?
collkid
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Highlands Ranch, Colorado
Re: The Colorado BS thread
haha that thing is awesome...
haha that thing is awesome...
