Coil retainers?
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CRASH
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XJguy said:
I'm doing this on the new chassis. Right now, I feel like it might help balance the rig a little in extreme articulation situations. But I'm not sure if the theory will mean much in reality. I'm still going to run limit straps.
At least it would stop the destruction of coil spring isolators!
CRASH
KY Chris
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How much flex and how often will it occur? Damn, a spring has to drop pretty far to clear a stock bump stop on an XJ. Seen them pop out of a tj, but that was REALLY flexed.
XJZ
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KY Chris said:
I believe he's talking about just unseating from the pad, not sliding all the way down the bumpstop. :dunno:
useless
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Limiting straps.
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yep, limiting straps.
I lengthened my upper towers, and my bottom seat is taller than oem, and I still loose coils.....
that's the nature of 14" worth of travel though.....
I still need to bolt on some limiting straps.
I lengthened my upper towers, and my bottom seat is taller than oem, and I still loose coils.....
that's the nature of 14" worth of travel though.....
I still need to bolt on some limiting straps.
CRASH
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If you capture the coil, and use limiting straps, I think the combo would work very well together, especially for high speed stuff.
Is their a DOWNSIDE to capturing a coil?
CRASH
Is their a DOWNSIDE to capturing a coil?
CRASH
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spring coil bondage.
thats hot.
thats hot.
CRASH said:
Yes,
It will be on your rig!
I'm not sure how much it will really do. I think a antirock will do more for you.
To add to the serious question, I think if the suspension is flexing that much to unseat the coil to fall off, the suspension isn't set up right in the first place, too much flex.
hinkley
4ward
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CRASH said:
The only downside I can think of is faster fatigue of the spring. I've been contemplating this for a while, but I don't think I want to limit it that much up front. I feel if you can get your geometry right, you don't need to worry about fixes like this.
Sean
CRASH
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I don't think it's a matter of suspension geometry. It's a matter of total travel vs. shock length vs. limiting the end of your travel.
Wouldn't stretching a spring slightly at the end of your suspension travel provide a gentler transition than simply a limit strap?
On high speed stuff, wouldn't it better control the first few inches of uptravel when landing from "flight"?
CRASH
Wouldn't stretching a spring slightly at the end of your suspension travel provide a gentler transition than simply a limit strap?
On high speed stuff, wouldn't it better control the first few inches of uptravel when landing from "flight"?
CRASH
OT
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I think it would. It would create a gentler transition to set your limiting straps to just a few inches past neutral. Seems smoother in my head any way.CRASH said:
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dare to be a ramp monster.
Okay, so I'm one of the guilty ones.....
I don't have coil retainers now, and I unseated a coil in Moab. I'm not running pucks on the coil pad, so it didn't take much to pop it out. Fortunately, it didn't come out completely, it snagged on sway bar mount.
I'm still trying to figure out why it unseated (just prior to Mirror Gulch on Metal Masher) and hadn't unseated before. My shocks bottom out just prior to the coil losing pressure. And the driveshaft collapsing back into the tcase.
I don't have coil retainers now, and I unseated a coil in Moab. I'm not running pucks on the coil pad, so it didn't take much to pop it out. Fortunately, it didn't come out completely, it snagged on sway bar mount.
I'm still trying to figure out why it unseated (just prior to Mirror Gulch on Metal Masher) and hadn't unseated before. My shocks bottom out just prior to the coil losing pressure. And the driveshaft collapsing back into the tcase.
basalt51
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CRASH said:
It seems to me that unless you match the limiting strap perfectly to the coil then you are supporting the weight of the axle on whatever thin sheetmetal the spring retainer is bolted to. If the limiting strap is shorter then the spring retainer isn't needed at all.
:dunno:
OT
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It seems that'd be less of an issue with a multipoint mount.basalt51 said:
XJZ
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SPY PHOTO....
The all new ORGS/PUV CSR (Coil Spring
Retainer). Just the thing you need to keep
those pesky XJ upper coils in place....
The all new ORGS/PUV CSR (Coil Spring
Retainer). Just the thing you need to keep
those pesky XJ upper coils in place....
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isn't it nice that those two partnered up like that?
talk about "vendor problems"......
4ward
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There's no booger welds when you pay $800 for 10 mins. worth of welding :greensmok