CO2 in tires

[ethernet]

I have seen a couple kits online that you can use CO2 to fill your tires after wheeling. However I talked to a guy at a local welding shop and he said it is really bad for your tires. Is this true? I wouldn't think it would be... Especially if there are kits to do it... Anyone know?

 

[fourplayoffroad]

i would say its ok being that the last 3 times i've aired down i used c02 to air up and its been a month and everything seems good i also have a friend that uses c02 every time he airs down and he hasnt had any problems yet but im not a pro just your average wheeler

 

[IXNAYXJ]

...I talked to a guy at a local welding shop and he said it is really bad for your tires.

Total bullshit. Been doing it for years, as have many others.

-----Matt-----

 

[ethernet]

That's what I figured. However this guy was dead set against it. Said something about the co2 expanding or something like that. Now I need to find some money to buy a regulator for the tank I already had for refilling my paintball co2 tanks...

 

[Ba-Riedo]

The one thing that is bad about CO2 is that I have found that it will leak out of your tires quicker then air will, something about CO2 having smaller molecules. But it is a great way to fill up a tire on the trail.

-Alex

 

[mud1059]

Ya, but ~3000 PSI in my backseat should worry all nearby. Get OBA instead.

 

[sams88]

They sell those little co2 cartridge bottles with tire valve adapters for airing up bike tires at bike shops... better than carrying around a big tank. So if they do it for bike tires and tubes, it obviously isn't killing off the rubber.

 

[mud1059]

What's the volume difference between a 24" bike tire and a 35x12.5R15. How many bottles would one need?

 

[ECKSJAY]

Doesn't everyone have OBA to work their air lockers?

 

[sams88]

What's the volume difference between a 24" bike tire and a 35x12.5R15. How many bottles would one need?

really have no idea what psi those little bottles are at. But the bike tires on my bikes run between 60-80psi. So one of those little hummers is gonna put out some volume at the psi you're running in auto tires. But would probably be an alright thing for carrying along for an emergency kinda thing. ??

 

[XJourney]

Ya, but ~3000 PSI in my backseat should worry all nearby. Get OBA instead.

Sorry to disappoint but it is only about 1200psi. I would be more worried about the 15 or so gallons of flammable liquid we all carry around in the back everyday. Better to die from asphyxia then burned to death

IMHO There are only three negatives to co2
1. have to refill ($12 each time)
2. Can freeze if over used below 32 degrees (Filling more then one set of tires)
3. leaks out of tires (5 psi in 2 weeks)

Advantages over OBA
1.Easy
2. cheap ($160)
3. portable (you don't have to turn your jeep around on the trail to help a buddy, just grab and go)
4.Fast and instant (150 plus psi).
5. turn the tank upside down to make dry ice.
6. can be used to put out fires (doesn't replace an ABC extinguisher.)
7. fuel efficient (don't have to run your jeep)
8. Ricer kids think you have NOS.
9. can be used with a kegerator.

The defense rests

 

[IXNAYXJ]

Sorry to disappoint but it is only about 1200psi. I would be more worried about the 15 or so gallons of flammable liquid we all carry around in the back everyday. Better to die from asphyxia then burned to death

IMHO There are only three negatives to co2 1. have to refill ($12 each time) 2. Can freeze if over used below 32 degrees 3. leaks out of tires (5 psi in 2 weeks)

Advantages over OBA 1.Easy 2. cheap ($160) 3. portable (you don't have to turn your jeep around on the trail to help a buddy, just grab and go) 4.Fast and instant (150 plus psi). 5. turn the tank upside down to make dry ice. 6. can be used to put out fires (doesn't replace an ABC extinguisher.) 7. fuel efficient (don't have to run your jeep)
8. Ricer kids think you have NOS. 9. can be used with a keg.

The defense rests

The Jury finds for the Defense.

:cheers:

-----Matt-----

 

[sams88]

8. Ricer kids think you have NOS.

The defense rests

LOL ah yes... the tuners!!

 

[Muddy Beast]

I'll chime in here on the bike CO2 stuff, since I'm a "professional" by working at a bike shop...and have been seriously in that hobby for years.

My bet is it will take way to many CO2 cartridges to fill up a car tire. Why you ask? Well I can fill up a road bike tire (roughly 29x.75) to just under 100 psi with one cartridge (plus or minus 10 PSI if you get a bigger or smaller gram cartridge, but most are fairly small) and in my mountain bike tires, which are 26x2.5 I cant even fill the whole thing up on one cartridge, and I go to about 40psi...it takes 2 to get it where I want with a little left over.

With all of that said, my bet is that it would take several CO2 cartridges to fill up a tire...a "big air" might work (big CO2 cartridge)...but it depends on how much more air you need. The problem is these things get expensive quick...at about $1 a pop, considering how many you'll need down the road you may as well buy a cheap cigarette plug in compressor like I have.

P.S. CO2 is fine for your tires! Just like what was stated above, it leaks out a little quicker. And for the record, CO2 is only used on bikes when your in a hurry (typically) because it's faster than doing it by hand...mostly due to the price of new cartridges.

 

[sams88]

Nice to know. I've never dinked around with the cartridges myself. I have a "Joe Blow" tire pump I use at home on them, and the son got one of the small hand pumps to take on the bike. They sure take a while to pump up a tire though. As for the 4x4, yep, a plug in air pump would be better. Maybe some day I'll get rich and get an oba setup.

 

[2xtreme]

Just to make it a little more accurate

OBA Advantages over CO2
1. have to refill ($12 each time)
2. Can freeze if over used below 32 degrees (Filling more then one set of tires)
3. leaks out of tires (5 psi in 2 weeks)
4. Takes space in the cargo compartment.
5. Needs to be safely mounted in cargo compartment.
6. Expensive, my OBA was about $35.
7. You have to open the cargo area to get the hose and turn it on (if you wire a OBA system you don't need to get a tank or access a tank).
8. CO2 is NOT normally considered "good" for the enviroment.

CO2 Advantages over OBA
1. portable
2. Fast and instant (might be better at re-seating a bead, inflating a tire is about the same time).
3. turn the tank upside down to make dry ice.
4. can be used to put out fires (doesn't replace an ABC extinguisher.)
5. fuel efficient (don't have to run your jeep)
6. Ricer kids think you have NOS.
7. can be used with a kegerator.

Michael

 

[ECKSJAY]

Just to make it a little more accurate

OBA Advantages over CO2
1. have to refill ($12 each time)
2. Can freeze if over used below 32 degrees (Filling more then one set of tires)
3. leaks out of tires (5 psi in 2 weeks)
4. Takes space in the cargo compartment.
5. Needs to be safely mounted in cargo compartment.
6. Expensive, my OBA was about $35.
7. You have to open the cargo area to get the hose and turn it on (if you wire a OBA system you don't need to get a tank or access a tank).
8. CO2 is NOT normally considered "good" for the enviroment.

CO2 Advantages over OBA
1. portable
2. Fast and instant (might be better at re-seating a bead, inflating a tire is about the same time).
3. turn the tank upside down to make dry ice.
4. can be used to put out fires (doesn't replace an ABC extinguisher.)
5. fuel efficient (don't have to run your jeep)
6. Ricer kids think you have NOS.
7. can be used with a kegerator.

Michael

WTF is that gibberish?

 

[mud1059]

Sorry to disappoint but it is only about 1200psi. I would be more worried about the 15 or so gallons of flammable liquid we all carry around in the back everyday. Better to die from asphyxia then burned to death

IMHO There are only three negatives to co2
1. have to refill ($12 each time)
2. Can freeze if over used below 32 degrees (Filling more then one set of tires)
3. leaks out of tires (5 psi in 2 weeks)

Advantages over OBA
1.Easy
2. cheap ($160)
3. portable (you don't have to turn your jeep around on the trail to help a buddy, just grab and go)
4.Fast and instant (150 plus psi).
5. turn the tank upside down to make dry ice.
6. can be used to put out fires (doesn't replace an ABC extinguisher.)
7. fuel efficient (don't have to run your jeep)
8. Ricer kids think you have NOS.
9. can be used with a kegerator.

The defense rests

So I multiplied the 1200 psi by 2.5. Everything but #9 was retarded - yet still useless.

 

[WheelinJR]

hrmmms...so welders are not tire experts...


who knew!