seems one of the more dangerous ways to steal metal, on your back, with your vison obstructed. I would love to find someone under my jeep trying to steal something, i would relish the opportunity to dance a jig on their balls, literally smash em to bits, maybe blast them with some pepper spray for good meaure, shoot them in the leg.
If anyone else has recently had their cat stolen, PM me, I have dozens of catalytic converters from all late model SUV's and luxury cars that I'm willing to provide for around $50 each...
seems one of the more dangerous ways to steal metal, on your back, with your vison obstructed. I would love to find someone under my jeep trying to steal something, i would relish the opportunity to dance a jig on their balls, literally smash em to bits, maybe blast them with some pepper spray for good meaure, shoot them in the leg.
Its really kind of absurd that you are required to have a cat on your car but the cops don't (or can't) really do anything if its stolen and you have to pay $200-600 to get a new one installed (if you aren't installing it yourself).
(11) What may happen if I don't use the correct converter?
First, it is a violation of Federal law because it is likely to increase the amount of pollution
coming out of the vehicle. Penalties for violations by individuals, service or repair shops or fleet
operators are up to $2,500 per violation. (Each improper installation is considered a violation.) New
car dealers can be penalized up to $25,000 per violation. Any person who causes a violation could
be subject to the same penalty as the installer.
Additionally, it is a violation of federal law to sell used Catcons unless they have been tested and labeled as recertified, too. It's also a violation of law to install a used CatCon brought in by a customer, even if it came off that very vehicle.
(11) What may happen if I don't use the correct converter?
First, it is a violation of Federal law because it is likely to increase the amount of pollution
coming out of the vehicle. Penalties for violations by individuals, service or repair shops or fleet
operators are up to $2,500 per violation. (Each improper installation is considered a violation.) New
car dealers can be penalized up to $25,000 per violation. Any person who causes a violation could
be subject to the same penalty as the installer.
Additionally, it is a violation of federal law to sell used Catcons unless they have been tested and labeled as recertified, too. It's also a violation of law to install a used CatCon brought in by a customer, even if it came off that very vehicle.
i was under the impression after 100k miles you were exempt? Atleast here in michigan were are not tested for emissions EVER, i know i have talked to guys at exhaust shops and they said dont waste your money on a cat, you dont need one. I believed them since they woulda made money selling me one in theory.
Some states/cities require you to get vehicle emissions testing and this usually requires a visual inspection of the system, so if the cat isn't there you fail (NYC or Cali). Some places only require a visual inspection, so you still need to have atleast the shell of the cat in place (upstate NY). Other places don't care about vehicle emissions and you can do almost anything you want to.
i was under the impression after 100k miles you were exempt? Atleast here in michigan were are not tested for emissions EVER, i know i have talked to guys at exhaust shops and they said dont waste your money on a cat, you dont need one. I believed them since they woulda made money selling me one in theory.
I didn't think there was an exemption for licensed vehicles registered for street use. no matter the age. Dad's 281K '90 Larado legally needed a cat just as much as my '98 Limited or their new '06 Town & Country. Now that pre-OBD2 vehicles don't have to be emissions tested here in Illinois, you could probably get away with a dummy cat but even that would be against this federal law...............................
still other places don't have inspections, but if you are pulled the officer can take a look and if he sees no cat, can impound the vehicle.
Happened to me 3 years ago. I got lucky in that I was required to bring a receipt for a catcon to be installed on my vehicle (in other words, prepaid) before I was allowed to get my vehicle back.
Of course, one could still go without installing the cat they just paid for- but then you go right back to the beginning.
Honestly, though-- one can't tell a catcon is properly functioning just by looking, and how many people change the catcon at the recommended 50-80K mile interval? Noone. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see it come about that there's a preventative catcon replacement implemented on maintenance cycles soon, of the sort that disables the vehicle unless a counter is reset.
"Emissions timer", anyone?
It's all a bunch of crap foisted upon us by the fallacy of global warming.
still other places don't have inspections, but if you are pulled the officer can take a look and if he sees no cat, can impound the vehicle.
Happened to me 3 years ago. I got lucky in that I was required to bring a receipt for a catcon to be installed on my vehicle (in other words, prepaid) before I was allowed to get my vehicle back.
Of course, one could still go without installing the cat they just paid for- but then you go right back to the beginning.
Honestly, though-- one can't tell a catcon is properly functioning just by looking, and how many people change the catcon at the recommended 50-80K mile interval? Noone. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see it come about that there's a preventative catcon replacement implemented on maintenance cycles soon, of the sort that disables the vehicle unless a counter is reset.
"Emissions timer", anyone?
It's all a bunch of crap foisted upon us by the fallacy of global warming.
Isn't this what OBD2 Emissions Controls brought us? If it wasn't for SEMA (I think the ACLU was also involved in this on the public's side, but I can't remember for sure), at one time the EPA was going to try and fix it so that the nearly identicle OBD3 computer would end a messege to the EPA that it saw a problem and the car owner would get fined accordingly untill the problem was fixed. Now if you gutted and put a straight pipe in your old (preferably dead) cat and mounted it back up most people wouldn't be the wiser since it would be obvious to anyone who looked without removing and inspecting the cat.
Now if you gutted and put a straight pipe in your old (preferably dead) cat and mounted it back up most people wouldn't be the wiser since it would be obvious to anyone who looked without removing and inspecting the cat.
It doesn't have to be removed to tell if it working/still has its guts, you can tell using a thermometer. The cat won't get up to the proper temp without its guts.
It doesn't have to be removed to tell if it working/still has its guts, you can tell using a thermometer. The cat won't get up to the proper temp without its guts.
right but in michigan there is no testing, i guess a cop could look under a vehicle if the operator was being a jerk, or the cop was in a pissy mood. I am not a cop, but i think it would have to be a visual inspection, they arent allowed (or equiped for that matter to test otherwise, i have was issued a noise violation for my borla header, 2 1/2 pipes and 50 series flowmaster, despite the fact the cop wasnt equiped with a cheap db meter.... By the way i fought the ticket and it dismissed ). I think its a safe bet the are not, nor would the cops be equiped with any exhuast testing tools.
Let's not forget the greenies also at one point wanted to have ALL vehicles over 15 years impounded and crushed. The idea being that they were polluting too much, etc.
Fine. Who's buying me a new vehicle? Yeah, that's what I thought...
Let's not forget the greenies also at one point wanted to have ALL vehicles over 15 years impounded and crushed. The idea being that they were polluting too much, etc.
Fine. Who's buying me a new vehicle? Yeah, that's what I thought...
Holy S.
Even full eye, ear, and hand protection while holding it up for all to see.
I thought the 1st lady was getting out a cell to call cops, but it was only for a smoke.
