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RedHeapOjeep said:
It doesn't matter how much she gets paid. It doesn't matter how much he gets paid. If he is not contractually forbidden to ride a motorcycle, he may do so, as can anyone else. When I signed a contract to be in the Marines, I agreed to certain stipulations. Can't do drugs. Have to wear certain safety equipment when I ride a motorcycle. If I don't follow the rules, I'm out.

This isn't a case of Ben violating his contract. If it was so important to the Steelers that he be safe, they could have pursued the same clause that Kellen Winslow had in his contract. They chose not to. The organization could be just as at fault for allowing him on his hayabusa in the first place.

Again, not saying he wasn't stupid for riding in downtown pittsburgh without a helmet. I just think the arguement that he's a millionaire and a football player shouldn't be a reason to chastise him for something millions of other americans do everyday.
The difference between your wife's situation and an NFL quarterback isn't the money as much as the replacability.
Your wife may be very good at what she does but, in the end, she can be replaced somewhat easily.
There are a very, very, limited amount of people on this earth who can do what Ben Roethleswhateverhisnameis does. That's why he gets paid what he does. That's why he has a higher responsibility to his team and the fans of his team. That's also why his employer has every right to tell him he's not allowed to jump out of airplanes or take other foolish risks with his health.
 
kid4lyf said:
That's also why his employer has every right to tell him he's not allowed to jump out of airplanes or take other foolish risks with his health.

Agree'd. Why aren't the Steelers in the headlines for being foolish and taking risks?

I hate that we, myself included, feel so connected to the sports teams that we root for that those athletes become role models and put on that pedestal. When they fail us, we feel wronged. What we perceive as ours, like the Rooney's 5 million they pay him, isn't really ours.

Tony Stewart owns a Lamborghini that does 200 mph and is literally the one person that particular team cannot do without, but no one tells him not to drive it.
 
the NFL does have "risky behavior" clauses in every contract. They don't forbid actions, but if a player is injured due to a risky activity then the team is no longer obligated to the contract, and can seek damages. including the repayment of bonuses and contract money. SO even though the Steelers can't tell him not to ride a bike, they have put financial ramifications in place, and it takes a foolish person to risk a 5 million a year deal.
 
LS1Jeep said:
Big deal another dumbass riding with out a helmet ...thats what happens doesn't matter who you are....

I agree with you.

It was probably his fault anyways, he could have killed the lil old lady he hit. People worry too much about sports anyways. Nothing like paying people way too damn much because they can throw a ball, hit a ball or dribble. The sports have become to easy now anyways, they need to make them harder. For football they need to make the field into a big "V" with the 50 yard line in the bottom of it and make the ball 5 times bigger. Basketball needs to raise the hoop 10 feet, weigh the ball down 10 lbs and make the court sticky.

So what if another football player cant ever play football again. Oh no, he might have to get an honest paying job? Then they cant play who has the bigger contract game? Good riddance.
 
0313 said:
I agree with you.

It was probably his fault anyways, he could have killed the lil old lady he hit. People worry too much about sports anyways. Nothing like paying people way too damn much because they can throw a ball, hit a ball or dribble. The sports have become to easy now anyways, they need to make them harder. For football they need to make the field into a big "V" with the 50 yard line in the bottom of it and make the ball 5 times bigger. Basketball needs to raise the hoop 10 feet, weigh the ball down 10 lbs and make the court sticky.

So what if another football player cant ever play football again. Oh no, he might have to get an honest paying job? Then they cant play who has the bigger contract game? Good riddance.
Still bitter about Lance Armstrong, huh?:D
 
Half of this thread is the voice of naivety, the guy kicked fate in the nuts and got smacked for it.
 
Yeah - I'm a little tired of hearing of overpaid mastodons running about, just because they can play a physical game (I hesitate to call them all "athletes" - an athlete is a physical generalist. Someone who can successfully run a decathlon is an athlete.)

If his contract isn't up, I think it possible that he should be sued for breach - a potentially disabling injury as a result of an off-hours activity, from which he was told to refrain.

As far as making "sports" harder, I've got my ideas. If we're going to pay these people millions, then they should have to fill out a "next of kin" blank on their application/contract/whatever, and have a very real risk of dying on the field. Maybe I'm just cranky, but there's something significantly wrong with someone making more money in a year than I do in 30 or so - without an education, and only working on week-ends (not counting "practise" and "training.")

If we can afford to pay sports players so damn much, why don't soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines make more? Seems to me they're well worth it.

And no, I'm not bitter about Lance Armstrong. I, honestly, don't even care, and he's a bicyclist, not an athlete (unless he's hidden physical prowess from the media, but I don't watch much news. Too damn depressing.)

I know it's not my money - I don't buy tickets to these games, but it irritates me nonetheless. What public service or benefit to the body politic do they provide, save entertainment (and damn little of that?)

Besides, after listening to a few interviews with these cyphers, I realise that many of them would make Popeye the sailor sound downright literate and articulate. And we think of these fools as heroes?

Never has Gil's sig been more fitting than on this thread. I'd forgotten I'd said that, but it's nice to see someone else take it to heart.

5-90
 
Whats even better is he doesn't have a VALID Penn st. motorcycle license...

:D


all that money doesn't buy intelligence.


Terry Bradshaw for quaterback this year....at least he's relatively smart.
 
All of us from Shreveport are;)
 
Steelers fan here,, I have to agree he did kick fate, just as any 23 year old does. He wont be the last to do it im sure..
 
5-90 said:
If his contract isn't up, I think it possible that he should be sued for breach - a potentially disabling injury as a result of an off-hours activity, from which he was told to refrain.

5-90

Actually his agent has already made the comment that the team could try to sue him for breach of contract but since the contract doesn't specifically call out motorcycles and/or equipment to wear while riding they would loose. Several teams do call out specifically that sort of thing.

Life is dangerous. He could have suffered the same injuries crossing the street. How we each live our life is up to each of us.

Sarge
 
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