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Everybody to their own choice, helmetless is better from an insurance point of view, less long term vegetable/spinal injury care because you usually die up front. Sorry, I have no sympathy for riding w/o a helmet and protective clothes, as soon as I had kids and realized how much they depended on me I parked mine which was a tough thing because I literally lived for riding. I hope he's OK and not damaged for life, don't know if he has family, for their sake I hope he's ok...
 
Let's go Penguins........

(I say it every year, usually right after they loose in the first round of the playoff season)

Seriously tho, that sucks.

Jeff
 
I'd bet there is something in his contract strictly prohibiting his doing something like that just in case this happened.


Hope he has a hell of an insurance policy through LLoyds of London.
 
Darthrider said:
The Doc just said his knees are shot, probably career ending.
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I think his knee "injuries" are mostly skin related, some road rash. I've been listening to the NFL radio on my Sirius and that seems to be the word.
Broken jaw, broken sinus/nose, missing teeth, minor knee injuries.
I don't care if he's ugly, just so long as he can play. Apparently the majority of the surgery today has been facial.
Totally sucks, he was just on NFL radio this morning, I listened to the interview on my way to work.
 
red91inWA said:
He should have taken Bradshaws advise...

"ride it when you retire."
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Why? Because Bradshaw said not to ride and an accident happened? I guess he shouldn't drive a car either then because he could get in an accident. Something tells me Ben knew what the consequences of his actions could be, but decided the risk was worth it to him. Just because he's a sports star does not mean that his recreation/form of transportation has to be decided for him. It's a shame if it ends his career while he so young but it was his choice to make.
 
kunaji said:
Why? Because Bradshaw said not to ride and an accident happened? I guess he shouldn't drive a car either then because he could get in an accident. Something tells me Ben knew what the consequences of his actions could be, but decided the risk was worth it to him. Just because he's a sports star does not mean that his recreation/form of transportation has to be decided for him. It's a shame if it ends his career while he so young but it was his choice to make.
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I agree. I think helmet laws and seat belt laws are unconstitutional. Would I wear them? Absolutely. His choice to make as a free citizen of this country, regardless of his profession.

The thing that pisses me off is that they have the talent to make millions playing a game for a living and don't appreciate the position that they're in. They spend more on taxes in a year than what I get paid in a year, but feel that their profession and wealth allows them to ignore the risks involved with such actions.
 
RedHeapOjeep said:
The thing that pisses me off is that they have the talent to make millions playing a game for a living and don't appreciate the position that they're in. They spend more on taxes in a year than what I get paid in a year, but feel that their profession and wealth allows them to ignore the risks involved with such actions.
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Me thinks it's an age thing.
 
kunaji said:
Why? Because Bradshaw said not to ride and an accident happened? I guess he shouldn't drive a car either then because he could get in an accident. Something tells me Ben knew what the consequences of his actions could be, but decided the risk was worth it to him. Just because he's a sports star does not mean that his recreation/form of transportation has to be decided for him. It's a shame if it ends his career while he so young but it was his choice to make.
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The problem with that thinking is this.
He is on a team. His actions effect other people's lives.
That team represents a city. The people of that city pay large sums of money to watch and cheer for that team.
Business descisions; draft picks, trades, etc are made based on him being healthy. Obviously, things such as injuries, auto accidents, and other things happen but teams try to avoid these as much as possible by putting limits on athletes personal "freedoms".
Here in Chicago we had the same thing happen when Jason Williams, the number one draft pick, had his career ended in a motorcycle crash.
 
kid4lyf said:
The problem with that thinking is this.
He is on a team. His actions effect other people's lives.
That team represents a city. The people of that city pay large sums of money to watch and cheer for that team.
Business descisions; draft picks, trades, etc are made based on him being healthy. Obviously, things such as injuries, auto accidents, and other things happen but teams try to avoid these as much as possible by putting limits on athletes personal "freedoms".
Here in Chicago we had the same thing happen when Jason Williams, the number one draft pick, had his career ended in a motorcycle crash.
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So you're saying that if the Steelers wanted him to walk around in a bubble wrap suit everywhere because motorized transportation is dangerous he should do so? I won't argue that the team has a high stake in his staying uninjured though. If he agreed to not ride his motorcycle in his contract that's a different story though. No matter how much a team has invested in a player in time and money, they will always move on to another player eventually anyways. No one person can be attributed to the teams success. Look at the Packers. Brett Favre is an awesome quarterback and yet his team sucked last year for reasons that were out of his hands.
 
kunaji said:
So you're saying that if the Steelers wanted him to walk around in a bubble wrap suit everywhere because motorized transportation is dangerous he should do so? I won't argue that the team has a high stake in his staying uninjured though. If he agreed to not ride his motorcycle in his contract that's a different story though. No matter how much a team has invested in a player in time and money, they will always move on to another player eventually anyways. No one person can be attributed to the teams success. Look at the Packers. Brett Favre is an awesome quarterback and yet his team sucked last year for reasons that were out of his hands.
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Telling a guy you have a $50,000,000 stake in to not ride a motorcycle without a helmet is not exactly out of line and equating that to living in a bubble is stupid.
I've said it before; tempting fate is one thing. Kicking fate in the nuts and calling it's mother a whore is just plain foolish.
 
kid4lyf said:
The problem with that thinking is this.
He is on a team. His actions effect other people's lives.
That team represents a city. The people of that city pay large sums of money to watch and cheer for that team.
Business descisions; draft picks, trades, etc are made based on him being healthy. Obviously, things such as injuries, auto accidents, and other things happen but teams try to avoid these as much as possible by putting limits on athletes personal "freedoms".
Here in Chicago we had the same thing happen when Jason Williams, the number one draft pick, had his career ended in a motorcycle crash.
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Sure, but the problem with that thinking is that, in the end, most employees are working for some sort of "team". If my wife is sick, the accounting firm suffers, yet she can go skydiving if she wants to. You can't place restrictions on someone's life because of the financial ramifications of his/her actions.

I'm not saying it wasn't stupid, because it was. I'm saying he has the right to do what every other citizen does regardless of his profession.
 
Does she have a 5million$(or whatever rediculous amount it is) a year contract?
 
It doesn't matter how much she gets paid. It doesn't matter how much he gets paid. If he is not contractually forbidden to ride a motorcycle, he may do so, as can anyone else. When I signed a contract to be in the Marines, I agreed to certain stipulations. Can't do drugs. Have to wear certain safety equipment when I ride a motorcycle. If I don't follow the rules, I'm out.

This isn't a case of Ben violating his contract. If it was so important to the Steelers that he be safe, they could have pursued the same clause that Kellen Winslow had in his contract. They chose not to. The organization could be just as at fault for allowing him on his hayabusa in the first place.

Again, not saying he wasn't stupid for riding in downtown pittsburgh without a helmet. I just think the arguement that he's a millionaire and a football player shouldn't be a reason to chastise him for something millions of other americans do everyday.
 
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