zfinger
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- Boulder, CO
I work in a big factory, and have people ask if its my Jeep and tell me they like my sticker all the time. The plant manager even told me it was funny.
boss wants me to ge rid of tom woods sticker
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theslacker
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- Wet Coast of BC
I get some flack for my stickers but I just say meh.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/theslacker/jeep1_2.jpg
It's usually for the Bad Religion Crossbuster
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/theslacker/jeep1_2.jpg
It's usually for the Bad Religion Crossbuster
Boatwrench
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- Petaluma, CA
Quit. Only after the other guys leaves, stick him him high and dry and tell him why. If you roll over on this issue there will be other requests. Where will it stop?
Employers have no right to tell you what bumper stickers you can have on your personal vehicle and if the parking lot is open to the public, no right about your easement onto it. He maybe scared of the women hitting him with a sexual harassment suit, but if it is not on company property...to sad to bad.
just my opinion.
Tom
Employers have no right to tell you what bumper stickers you can have on your personal vehicle and if the parking lot is open to the public, no right about your easement onto it. He maybe scared of the women hitting him with a sexual harassment suit, but if it is not on company property...to sad to bad.
just my opinion.
Tom
buzzbombxj
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- lake chabot
theslacker said:
good times, we painted a crossbuster on the door of my friends samuri, and i cant think of a time when we got flipped off more. f*** em i say. id have one on my jeep but im still paying my parents back for it, and they are verry christian
MyJeepXJ
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- SW Virginia
Looking at this from 1) a mature standpoint and 2) having worked for a SMALL company before, I can understand his (the boss') intent. He did ASK you to comply, there was no pressure from how you post. Now you dont know if the job is worth a sticker or not. You jumped 5 steps ahead and just started the job.
I always say, put yourself in there shoes before you make a snap decision. I would think this is (and Im gonna get flamed for this) a reasonable request. Everyone here knows what the sticker is ment to say, but its a twist on words that the general observer would only have 1 way to read it. We must be honest, and admit thats the way the sticker was MENT to be read by the general public, why else wouldnt it make everyone in the know grin?
If I were in your shoes Id pull the sticker and focus on paying the bills. If the job is good and the pay is good, and your co-workers and boss works like a team, thats mint right there. Sometimes we all have to group up. Ive finally got a vehicle with no stickers at all. Who I am is what makes me, not the stickers on my vehicle. Like I said, Im looking at this from a mature adult's stand point. Focus on the green, thats all that matters IMHO.
Good luck,
Andrew
I always say, put yourself in there shoes before you make a snap decision. I would think this is (and Im gonna get flamed for this) a reasonable request. Everyone here knows what the sticker is ment to say, but its a twist on words that the general observer would only have 1 way to read it. We must be honest, and admit thats the way the sticker was MENT to be read by the general public, why else wouldnt it make everyone in the know grin?
If I were in your shoes Id pull the sticker and focus on paying the bills. If the job is good and the pay is good, and your co-workers and boss works like a team, thats mint right there. Sometimes we all have to group up. Ive finally got a vehicle with no stickers at all. Who I am is what makes me, not the stickers on my vehicle. Like I said, Im looking at this from a mature adult's stand point. Focus on the green, thats all that matters IMHO.
Good luck,
Andrew
LBEXJ
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- Parke County, Indiana
Sometimes, these type requests indicate to your employer the cooperation he can expect from a new employee. I recommend that, if this job is important to you, that you show him some willingness to cooperate. If "unreasonable" requests continue, then make a decision as to where this job is taking you in acheiving your professional goals.
I'd also hope the sticker is not that important to you. I know there is a "principle" involved, but this request is not the same as asking you to do something that is against a personal conviction or ethic.
If you must have the sticker, get another and put it on your drive shaft.
JMO ...
Les
I'd also hope the sticker is not that important to you. I know there is a "principle" involved, but this request is not the same as asking you to do something that is against a personal conviction or ethic.
If you must have the sticker, get another and put it on your drive shaft.
JMO ...
Les
w_howey
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- The Mudwest
I had a boss that requested I don't drive my junk to work. I simply responded, "Okay, when do I pick up my company car?"
Last time I was asked not to drive my junk.
YMMV, Realistically this is a company I have been with for several years, and the ex-boss had been there a few weeks.
Last time I was asked not to drive my junk.
YMMV, Realistically this is a company I have been with for several years, and the ex-boss had been there a few weeks.
planefixer
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- Colorado Springs, CO
As the owner of a small company let me add my $ .02.Personally I think the guy is overreacting and crossing the line by asking you to remove the sticker.Thats YOUR personal property and has nothing to do with work.If you used your vehicle for work/professional purposes then I could understand where he is coming from but since you indicated otherwise,I dont think its any of his business what is on your rig.You could feed him some "infringement of your freedom of expression" BS or you could walk.It boils down to how bad you need the money/job.
88flexj
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- salinas, ca.
Your boss may be overreacting a little bit, but I see where he is coming from. I work for the state of California. There is a zero tolerance policy for sexual herassment. If one of those women said something to him about your sticker, and he didn't do anything about it, it all falls back on him. The way the law reads, he should have been aware of the problem being the supervisor. If you you really need the $$ pull of the sticker. There are a lot of people just looking for a way to sue and get paid for nothing. My 2 cents. 
old_man
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- Loveland, Colorado
It depends on the state. Maybe in Kalifornia, but in Colorado they can fire you because your hair isn't green on Tuesday. Absolutely no reason is required in Colorado.
METAL MONKEY
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right now, paying the bills is more important. i will probably pull the sticker after a long discussion with him monday, and I definitely continue to find a new job. again, it isn't really a problem to remove the sticker, but it is 'principle' of the idea that he wants it gone. He didn't directly put any pressure on me, but there was definitely implied pressure to remove it. first thing monday morning i will have a pow-wow with him about the whole issue. hopefully, we'll be able to resolve the problem in a professional manner.
METAL MONKEY
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anyone know the terms/limitations of collecting unemployment in the colorado?
shelbyluvv
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Man I had the same problem with my Woody sticker. My job is a little different than yours though. I can not just get fired. I get busted and can lose rank.
I had a female LT. get offended by the sticker. We ended up getting into a pissing contest over it. I am a SSgt and have been in the Marines 13 years, and the Lewie was only in a year and a half. It got so bad that the Battalion CO offered to either have me remove it, remove my rig from the base or remove some rank from my collar. Ultimately the sticker was removed from my rig.
Sorry to hear about your situation and I feel your pain, if I HAD a choice I would still be sporting my WOODY sticker.
I had a female LT. get offended by the sticker. We ended up getting into a pissing contest over it. I am a SSgt and have been in the Marines 13 years, and the Lewie was only in a year and a half. It got so bad that the Battalion CO offered to either have me remove it, remove my rig from the base or remove some rank from my collar. Ultimately the sticker was removed from my rig.
Sorry to hear about your situation and I feel your pain, if I HAD a choice I would still be sporting my WOODY sticker.
0313
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shelbyluvv said:
Damn women, you should tell her if she wants something like that, than you want her PFT to be the exact same as yours, no flex arm hang BS and no difference in max run and crunches. One more reason women dont belong in the military. They think they get harrassed for every little thing, but yet they are the first to start sleeping around the barracks. We had 2 females in malaysia request mast because the CO wouldnt let them do the opp in the field because there werent adequate facilities for them. Whiny whiny whiny.
If they had it their way we would bake cookies for our enemies and clean their houses.
5-90
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I gotta go with that - if a woman wants to do a job, she has to be able to meet CURRENTLY ACCEPTED standards. PQT, mentality, training - as long as that's being diluted, we're getting away from the primary military mission - breaking things and killing people. Granted, the first problem we've run into was defining the idea of a "non-combat" position.
We don't need EEO NCO's either - everyone in the service is the same colour (Air Force & Navy - Blue. Army & Marines - Green.) Beyond that, plumbing and skin tone just don't apply.
We can't run the armed forces like some damn country club - it just don't work that way. The same standards that work at "Birchwood Country Club" just can't fly in the "United States XXX" - because the people aren't the same.
Of course, I think making ossifers out of civilians is also a bad idea - unless we either reinstate the rank of "Temporary Third Lieutenant" or institute a requirement for enlisted service prior to commission...
5-90
We don't need EEO NCO's either - everyone in the service is the same colour (Air Force & Navy - Blue. Army & Marines - Green.) Beyond that, plumbing and skin tone just don't apply.
We can't run the armed forces like some damn country club - it just don't work that way. The same standards that work at "Birchwood Country Club" just can't fly in the "United States XXX" - because the people aren't the same.
Of course, I think making ossifers out of civilians is also a bad idea - unless we either reinstate the rank of "Temporary Third Lieutenant" or institute a requirement for enlisted service prior to commission...
5-90
Blackash132
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- St. Louis, MO
I think you should just explain what the sticker means. cause he's just jelous that he doesn't drive an Jeep it's prolly just a super stock Honda
Blackash
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stewie
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hmm, your in an odd position. trying to ballance your freedom of expression (and to support some awsome manufacturers) and the rights of your boss as the property owner. he, as the owner/manager of the buisness/adjoining parking lot, has the right to say what is and isnt allowed on it same as you allow who you want in your house. in no way is it public property, if it was you would have paid for it with taxes.
i understand your disire to keep the sticker and the reluctance to take it off, however he is trying to set a good image for his buisness. some solutions- find new employment (recommened), park on the street (public property, thus boss cant say anything) for the durration of your employment with him, rufuse and possibly get fired, or take the sticker off like a submissive little B****. i am not going to tell you what to do, but you can obviously see my recomendations
stewie
i understand your disire to keep the sticker and the reluctance to take it off, however he is trying to set a good image for his buisness. some solutions- find new employment (recommened), park on the street (public property, thus boss cant say anything) for the durration of your employment with him, rufuse and possibly get fired, or take the sticker off like a submissive little B****. i am not going to tell you what to do, but you can obviously see my recomendations
stewie
againstherwill
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- Indianapolis
Very tough position. If you give in now you give the appearance that you will put up with the sh*t that this guy is going to probably give you for the rest of your career there. If you don't you'll look to replace you asap as he still has all of the resumes of the people he didn't hire and leave you with no green. Magalomanics like this guy sounds to be are rough to deal with. Its probably the reason that he owns a small company. No big companies would put up with him and he thinks he knows better than they do anyway.
Even though he is probably a egotistical a$$, an another possibility is that he may have been sued for some sort of harassment suit by a women (maybe one of the ones he referred to) and came out on the short end of the stick. So now he is super-sensitive about such appearances.
Either way you loose as you need the ca-ca-cash! Also a word of warning from the IT and Securities community, if this guy is a megalomanic. A law suit in California last year set a nasty presidence regarding employees posting negative remarks about their employer on a web forum even though they weren't at work when they posted and they weren't using company resources to post. The employees lost-leave it to the morons and the moron judges in cali. So if you think this guy is not going to listen to your "speach" Monday post about this at your own risk.
My vote is never forget this, get all of the bills caught up, keep looking a new job and pick the most inopportune time for him and his little company to leave him high and dry.
Good Luck
Even though he is probably a egotistical a$$, an another possibility is that he may have been sued for some sort of harassment suit by a women (maybe one of the ones he referred to) and came out on the short end of the stick. So now he is super-sensitive about such appearances.
Either way you loose as you need the ca-ca-cash! Also a word of warning from the IT and Securities community, if this guy is a megalomanic. A law suit in California last year set a nasty presidence regarding employees posting negative remarks about their employer on a web forum even though they weren't at work when they posted and they weren't using company resources to post. The employees lost-leave it to the morons and the moron judges in cali. So if you think this guy is not going to listen to your "speach" Monday post about this at your own risk.
My vote is never forget this, get all of the bills caught up, keep looking a new job and pick the most inopportune time for him and his little company to leave him high and dry.
Good Luck
Honestly, the guy's probably already made up his mind about you since you didn't agree to remove the sticker immediately.
I bet you get the 'your not a team player' speech when he finds a new lapdog.
Don't mention it again, and strategically place a CENSORED decal the "woody" part.
That'll get your point across, without making a big deal out of something small.
And keep looking for that other job
I bet you get the 'your not a team player' speech when he finds a new lapdog.
Don't mention it again, and strategically place a CENSORED decal the "woody" part.
That'll get your point across, without making a big deal out of something small.
And keep looking for that other job
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Dress code at work is okay. It's his company, he can set the rules ... as long as they are applied equally and fairly to everyone.
Asking you to remove a window sticker, bumper sticker, or anything else from your personal vehicle is out of line. COMPLETELY out of line. Unfortunately, if you really want or need the job, you may not be able to tell him so but if you don't, I predict that you are correct ... this will be just the beginning.
Asking you to remove a window sticker, bumper sticker, or anything else from your personal vehicle is out of line. COMPLETELY out of line. Unfortunately, if you really want or need the job, you may not be able to tell him so but if you don't, I predict that you are correct ... this will be just the beginning.
