EXACTLY! You see, Troy, no one wants to come right out and say it, but we've been giving pretty damn good hints. We go to JV becuase it is fun wheeling. We work like crazy (and sometimes spend like crazy too) so we can go and not break down. We mostly don't like running with large groups or with people we don't know because we want to wheel, not sit around on the trail waiting for people who either break or don't know how to drive......and there is a lot of opportunity out there for both.
When we think someone is ready, we'll invite them. Now, there is some latitude there, we're not an elite bunch of snobs, and we want new people to go, we just want to be somewhat comfortable that they're ready for it. If someone who has never gone before makes an attempt to set up a run, you won't get any response from us....we're not going to bite. I can't say it any planer than that. You get your rig built, get some seat time in it, quit being a baby on the forums so people want to be around you, and you will likely get what you are wanting. If you haven't picked up on it yet, folks around here sort of make fun of mostly webwheelers (SeanP is a good example
), and you defintely qualify, whether you like it or not, since you post so damn much all the time, and say the same things over and over so damn often.......and also because you post specs in you sig that you haven't even done to your rig yet (get rid of that, would you?).
Step back, and be patient enough to build up to this stuff........just like all the rest of us have done. And for heaven's sake quit posting so much!! Do yourself (and us) a favor and count the number of posts you have in threads that you participate in and try to stay close to the same numbers as others who are posting in the same thread.
You are a young man, much younger than I am, you have plenty of wheeling years ahead of you. Relax.
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assgas: Evidently Big Red could be gone and still be set for the next 5 years.
. Maybe post that as your signature untill your Jeep gets done. Learn from it, and then act accordingly. Believe me, the Sierra Chapter members wish this whole situation would just resolve itself. We are frustrated beyond belief. The solution starts with you listening to the advice given by the very same people you want to go wheeling with. The same people you want to share a campfire with. And the very same people who would help you out on the trail. 
