BART Police Officer Executes Hand-Cuffed Man?!

[Boatwrench]

The more you travel the more you realize that a city is a city is a city and the people that live said cities are are more alike than different.

Ummm...NO they are not and I travel extensively.

 

[ehall]

Have you ever even left the trailer park?

Seriously man, you need to break the strawman crutch. All you're doing is demonstrating your prejudices.

 

[ehall]

I lived in Los Gatos for awhile, I really don't notice all that much difference.

Then you should know that Los Gatos is not Oakland

Christ, Los Gatos is one of the wealthiest burbs on the peninsula...

 

[ZomBrady]

Seriously man, you need to break the strawman crutch. All you're doing is demonstrating your prejudices.

Sure, I'm prejudice. I judge people on how they look, act and what they say. I'll never say otherwise. So what?

 

[ZomBrady]

Ummm...NO they are not and I travel extensively.

Disagreement. I've seen the same social problem in every city (and yes I've been outside of North America more than once) I've been to, maybe that's just me.

 

[ehall]

Disagreement. I've seen the same social problem in every city (and yes I've been outside of North America more than once) I've been to, maybe that's just me.

Well we already know you live according to your prejudices, so it makes sense that you would think ~Detroit and ~Luxembourg have the same problems

 

[buzzbombxj]

To me it looks like negligent discharge, which is regrettable but not something to get outraged over. Calling it murder or abuse of power is crybaby retarded.

Fixed it for you.

The gun didnt shoot itself at the unarmed handcuffed man on the ground, The bart cop had to pull the trigger.

 

[8Mud]

Then you should know that Los Gatos is not Oakland

Christ, Los Gatos is one of the wealthiest burbs on the peninsula...

I was in Oakland daily, kind of reminded me of the West Valley, definitely not Watts. Los Gatos is also tiny and not fenced.
If you look for trouble in most any metropolitan area or even the Burbs you'll likely find it.

 

[ZomBrady]

Well we already know you live according to your prejudices.

ROTFL! And you don't?! Bwahahahaa!

 

[8Mud]

Well we already know you live according to your prejudices, so it makes sense that you would think ~Detroit and ~Luxembourg have the same problems

Take a trip to Antwerp or Hamburg, got everything Oakland has or Detroit, still has fewer Police shootings, at or from.
I was actually in Luxemburg with a motorcycle gang, bar fight, Police showed up, nobody got shot. The cops were actually pretty nice about the whole thing.

 

[Boatwrench]

Disagreement. I've seen the same social problem in every city (and yes I've been outside of North America more than once) I've been to, maybe that's just me.

Ok we disagree on this point. That's what makes the world interesting.

 

[ZomBrady]

Ok we disagree on this point. That's what makes the world interesting.

Sure does.

 

[ehall]

Ok we disagree on this point. That's what makes the world interesting.

well it also means you listen to Limbaugh all day in the same trailer park you grew up in [/brad]

 

[ZomBrady]

well it also means you listen to Limbaugh all day in the same trailer park you grew up in . . . .

Nah, just you.

 

[Boatwrench]

well it also means you listen to Limbaugh all day in the same trailer park you grew up in [/brad]

:rof: :rof: :rof:

You OBVIOUSLY have never read my posts in the super dooper election zone.

:laugh: :yap: :laugh: :yap: :laugh:

 

[Darky]

Many of the comments here are disturbing:

1) Let's not forget; an UNARMED man was shot in the back. I've seen little respect for the dead in this thread (i.e., references to the victim as a "jerk" or something else derogatory). There has been no concern for the man's family or loved ones, or the loss of life at such a young age. Just imagine that you are the father and mother burying your child who was killed unneccesarily. Even those who are protesting what they believe to be injustice are demonized here.

I think pretty much everyone here has agreed that it was an unnecessary shooting. The protesters should be looked at as criminal because they are. They aren't protesting, they're rioting. They're destroying the property of people who had nothing to do with the shooting. A protest would be to march on city hall, to picket the station the officer was from, not to flip cars and start fires.
How about the cop's poor family? Because of his negligent/wrong/malicious (however you want to look at it) actions, now his family has to live in fear and there will be no settlement, no money for them (not that they deserve any, but then I don't believe the victim's family deserves $25mil either, can't really put a price tag on a man's life, but if forced, I would say it's a more fair proposition to figure approximately what he would have earned over a specified time.)

 

[Darky]

As long as it's not profanity for the sake of profanity, the profanity can be considered in context and left alone.

Profanity is against the rules on the open forums, "in context" or not.

 

[Darky]

Last nights "mostly peaceful protest that unravelled towards the end" resulted in 19 arrests. Broken windows on at least four store fronts and smashed windshields on at least two cars. Oakland had over 100 murders in 2008 most young black men. It has become increasing hard to have sympathy for young people who have demonstrated they have no respect for each other's lives let alone society.

Oscar Grant, the 22yo that was shot and killed had been released from jail less than 100 days prior. He had a history of irresponsible behavior. Drug charges, assault with a deadly weapon, I don't know but I've heard both. Was he on his way to turning his life around? There is no way of knowing now that he's dead. Was he directly involved in the fight on the BART train or a victim of wrong place at the wrong time? That will come out during the trial.

What will also probably come out in trail and will have far reaching impacts on the workforce of this country is the labor issue. The police officer (can't spell his name) was on MANDATORY overtime while his wife was in labor with their 1st child. You don't think that was a stressor or would have some bearing on his mindset? Then part of one of the videos shows as the police officers on the platform are starting to establish control of the crowd 3-5 more young men approach with the thug shuffle. The officers were outnumbered again heightening the officers stress level.


Will the cop get a change of venue for the trail? Can he get a fair trail? i would hope so.

Intelligence rather than....that other thing, not stupidity but non-though out words...damn brain is on the fritz again.
I'm surprised it took this long for anybody else to mention the other group of guys come walkin over like they were up to something. Looked like someone even threw something. It's a guarantee that those guys had more to do with Oscar's death than they did with getting him set free. Cop screwed up, maybe he had too much caffeine and got twitchy when he saw the other guys come walking over, but there's more going on in any scene like that than just the officer and the suspect. I'm not pinning the blame on Oscar, the cop, or the group of "thugs", I wasn't there and I'm not going to condemn anyone over some crappy cellphone video shot from 20-30 feet away.

 

[splendidyj]

This is all media propaganda. All you sheeple base your opinion on what you see on the news and internet. Remember that blood sells. Or as they say (if it bleeds it leads). I can’t imagine how you people throw this officer under the bus while they are throwing common sense out the door. In front of a train full of people and a platform full of witnesses you think a cop is going to whip out his gun and cold bloodily kill a young man. You are truly stupid mindless robots or you have an agenda that is breaking our society.
This is a rodney king all over again. If the cop was black then there would be thoughtful alterations to the video. But because he was white there are lawyers saying that the family wants 25m and if they don’t get it than the black community will burn down the streets. I am sick and dam tired of the race game and strong arming.
I am going to take down every ones board name and when the truth comes out I am going to post an, I told you so you dumb bastards link in the general forum thread. Mark my words. Peace out bitches!!!!

 

[ECKSJAY]

I am going to take down every ones board name and when the truth comes out I am going to post an, I told you so you dump bastards link in the general forum thread. Mark my words. Peace out bitches!!!!

Yeah, that'll show 'em! Dump bastards!