BART Police Officer Executes Hand-Cuffed Man?!

Ray I stated if we're in a CONFRONTATION and I feel threatened. So the rioters were in a confrontation with who? You do not involve yourself in a confrontation unless you understand the gravity of the situation, unless you just want to be injured. The point is, we have raised a (more than) generation of people that truly believe it's always the other guys fault, and that they can do as they please and mommy or daddy, or a court appointed lawyer will "help" them out of the situation. This thread proves it out fairly well, read some of the posts, the cop was at fault, if it weren't for the actions of the individuals, I doubt the cops would have been there. It's a tragedy that a person died, I will allow the courts to solve that issue. However, I will tell you this, again, if it were not for the actions of the individuals involved the cops would not have been there. So, lets lay the blame at the feet of those responsible. The one's that brought the police there in the first place.
 
A riot is a confrontation if the cops show up.

By your reasoning, if the cops show up, somebody should die? I know, you didnt mean that.
Heres the deal, ask Yella. When the cops show, they are to take charge of the situation. When they have someone in custody or detained, they are responsible for what happens to them. They are responsible for that persons welfare. Thats a huge responsibility. No matter how you slice it, the kid was shoot because one or more of the cops didnt do his job well enough. Thats really the black and white of it. What happened to get to that point doesnt matter. The question is did the cop perform the way he was trained or didnt he.
 
a riot is a confrontation if the cops show up? I need some of your dope. By my reasoning? Dude you need to put the bong down and get some fresh air. Where do you find that in my post? The same morons that treat the police like that would never treat a crip, blood, ms13 member with the same lack of respect, or fear. You cannot tell what is happening by the videos. However you can clearly see that people are behaving exactly as society has taught them. F*ck the police. If the individuals involved would have comported themselves with a bit of respect for others this situation would never have occurred. Did the police walk up and shoot this young man, or was a series of events started by their actions responsible for the incident? We live our lives everyday with choices, you need to place blame where it lies, with the individuals whom caused the issue at hand. I stated I will allow the courts to decide the "shooting issue". However any reasonable individual can see, the problem would never have happened without the instigation of the "young people". The police responded to a call, the individuals in question were in the wrong, instead of the criminal being blamed, it once again becomes the police are the bad guys. It's never the offenders fault, always the cops. I'm a crook, bar none, I've been arrested more times than I can count, and yes have been attacked by the 5oh. However, I understand the consequences of my actions brought about the events, I was responsible, not the police. The outlaw trail is rough, and sometimes short.
 
This is actually what you said
"if it were not for the actions of the individuals involved the cops would not have been there. So, lets lay the blame at the feet of those responsible. The one's that brought the police there in the first place."
I know you didnt say" If the cops show, someone must die". I stated that as an exaggeration of what you wrote.
All Im saying is that once the cops show and they have detained or arrested or secured everyone, they take on the responsibility for what happens to those people. The circumstances that brought them together dont matter. What matters is that the cops were there, they had control of everyone and someone was killed while in their care.
 
I was in from age 15 to 18 when I went in the Marine Corps. When I left I was a Lt.
 
What my point is/was/will be people are so quick to blame the police/teacher/authority figure. It's never the fault of the individual involved. I learned a long time ago, don't jack with a dude with a gun, and damn sure don't jack with a dude with a gun and a badge. It falls back to responsibility, are you silly enough to fight with a guy with a gun and then act suprised if you get shot? Right wrong or indifferent, the guy with the gun wins the SHORT TERM CONFRONTATION, I do not care that the family will sue, the young man is still dead, who caused the officer to draw his weapon? Was the officer just wandering around pointing his weapon at random individuals? OR, was the young man involved doing something that caused the officer to draw his weapon? Once again I state, I'm no angel, I love it when people blame the cops, "man that a-hole cop arrested me for weed possession!" "that a-hole wrote me a speeding ticket" WERE you in possession of an illegal substance? Were you speeding? Oh, what is your argument? The consequences of the young man's actions are thus, you do as the man says or you receive a beat down(my first choice), or you get mechanically ventilated.
 
I love you guys, even the gay ones. Did you were like little cop outfits with the Angus Young shorts? If so I bet ya'll were so cute.
 
msrorysddad said:
Oh, by the bye, police explorers you are both soooolastara
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I know, I went through H.S. hearing that same thing.
Never thought I would still be hearing it more than 25 years later though. A little disappointing.;)
 
Anyone hear the latest on this? Now the word is the cop mistakenly pulled his gun, he thought he had his Tazer. Im not sure how he could make that mistake but thats what they are saying.
 
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