balistic fab

[hman333]

hey just got my 60 and 14 bolt, and have been looking at ballistic stuff for a while for it, im just wondering, with the 3-in-1 combo bracket, are the lower mounts offset 5 or 10 or are they just straight, i am gonna run a 3link radius arm setup, and would these work fine for that

 

[RWKHausSupply]

hey just got my 60 and 14 bolt, and have been looking at ballistic stuff for a while for it, im just wondering, with the 3-in-1 combo bracket, are the lower mounts offset 5 or 10 or are they just straight, i am gonna run a 3link radius arm setup, and would these work fine for that

They are Not offset one bit. See picture below. I used the same mounts. Took some fab work as you can see with the center "centering" pads as mentioned above, as well as the shock spacing was like 1.25" not 1.5" so I had to do a little work there also. But if your able to do the swap, then your able to do these small fab items. For the 50$ I feel they were very worth it.

Be prepared though to have the front end pushed about 1.25" forward with these mounts with how the LCA is raised and spaced further back then stock. Also they will raise the front end of the jeep about 2".

 

[hman333]

hey man whered you get your upper mount

 

[RWKHausSupply]

hey man whered you get your upper mount

If your refering to me? I made it with a 4x4" 90deg gussett and a piece of 1x2x.120" rec tube (a piece of my tube bender handle) and then notched it for the johnny joint.

 

[hman333]

hey guys good news, jeff is releasing an XJ axle swap kit tomorrow, he said look for it on the site tomorrow night

 

[RCman]

hey guys good news, jeff is releasing an XJ axle swap kit tomorrow, he said look for it on the site tomorrow night

Hmmm, sounds interesting. Is it a universal type kit or is it something like T&T's where it's specific for a particular axle (in T&T's case the D44)?

I was planning on picking up the same brackets RobertK is using in a few days for my HP D60 buildup, mabye I'll just opt for the 'XJ kit' (depending on what it is and if it'll "play nice" with the full hydro setup I've got in the works).

Have to wait till tomorrow night I guess...

 

[hman333]

not sure, he just said look for it today sometime, and that it should solve any problems you have with the other brackets, i was gonna be using those same brackets too, but looks like we got new options now

 

[RWKHausSupply]

It's Nooot theeere..... Yet that is.. I am wondering if its just the same setup for the LCA/Shock/Spring mount as I bought alled with a pass side LCA tower and a Track bar mount tower. Cause thats what I basically used from his site (minus the UCA mount as that was just too easy to fab).

I do hope he addresses the lower spring mount setup, and adds a 'hump' or tube centering tube in the center of the pad. On a CJ that I did a full 4link and coil conversion on last yr it was way easy to just fab the lower mount and incorporate a Currie spring retainer bump stop kit in to. Works AWESOME! just took a piece of sch 40 pipe that just fit the ID of the TJ front spring, welded a 3/8" nut to a large washer that the OD was the same as the OD of the pipe, then welded the washer to the top of that centering pipe, with the nut inside. Then the Currie bumpstop / retainer just bolted to that. See below, I will see if I have a finished picture here at work, but I know I have a picture of the mount done, just no spring or retainer on it. But you shoudl get the idea. I went to A-Amfg.com and got round blanks, and leaf purches. Cut the face off the purches and then welded those to the round blank and then welded the spring mount to the axle.

 

[flexinout]

Still nothing on the site about a swap kit

 

[hman333]

still nothin, jeff told me it would be yesterday

Funny you should ask, we're coming out with a bracket kit tomorrow that will take care of your problems.. check back late tomorrow on our webpage uder "vehicle specific" -Jeff

 

[KSXJ]

still nothin - http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/Vehicle-Specific_c_91.html

 

[KSXJ]

Just got this sent in a pm. not sure why it came to me. But hey at least it looks like it is coming sometime. Kinda like tnt's waggy 44 coming soon????

I said i would not logon to again because they locked down the forums, but....

Nate from ballistics sent me a message on another board because he is lockout of advanced fab and was trying to get your guys this message.

If you could add this to the thread.

Hey Dave,
This is Nate over at Ballistic. There is a thread going on right now on "advanced engineering and fabrication" about us offering a full XJ SAS kit and for some reason it is not letting me post a response to this particular thread. Could you do me a favor and help calm the flood of calls coming from this thread by posting a response? Here is what I would like it to say.

Here at Ballistic Fab are currently working on making brackets available for XJ/TJs that would allow fabricators to use better axles but maintain stock coil, link, and shock locations. Rumor has it that we are making an entire kit but currently we are only working on a set of brackets to replace the lower axle link mounts, the lower coil buckets, the shock mounts, and an axle trackbar mount.

While everyone is very excited about this bracket, it is not quite ready yet, and we'd appreciate your patience to allow us to get it right. We are looking at everyone's suggestions about what they'd like in the bracket and trying to incorporate them into the design, but it takes some time since maintaining everything in factory locations and mixing them with nonfactory parts (of which the combinations of parts is endless) complicates the design.

Again, this is a set of brackets and is not an entire kit, so more work will need to be done by the fabricator to finish the rest of the build. I know everyone wants to know all the specs of the brackets but until we are finished we won't have anything concrete to tell you, so please let us finish it before calling us to ask questions. Look to the website in the coming weeks for the brackets. Thank you.
Nate
Ballistic Fab



Thanks alot Dave.

 

[Captain Ron]

Ballistic Fab.

Hmmm.

Let me see.

I'm looking at a few of their parts right now. Let me be kind here.

How can I say this shit is shit from a fabrication standpoint. Booty fab for boooty fabbers.

Have at it you Advanced Fabricators. What a bunch of shit that belongs on Pirate.

Go ahead, challenge it. Please.



--ron

PS: I wouldn't pay scrap rate for it.

 

[Mr.OverKill]

Ballistic Fab.

Hmmm. Let me be kind here.

How can I say this shit is shit from a fabrication standpoint. Booty fab for boooty fabbers.

Have at it you Advanced Fabricators. What a bunch of shit that belongs on Pirate.



--ron

PS: I wouldn't pay scrap rate for it.

for the most part i have to agree with ron on this one, it looks like some one with alot of money went out and bought a CNC cutter and a cad program and started cutting out random plate parts and realized that the could fit them together and sell them for the hot ticket of the week, any fabber with a torch and some skill could make the majority of those parts in less than an hour, thats with gringing and welding, less if they have a plasma cutter. but hell, who am i to say they arnt any good.

 

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

robertk used these coil buckets........


too bad he is not a paying member anymore (even though his wife brings in enough bacon to keep the 24s on his escalade spinnin )

or else he would probably post in here about them........

 

[53guy]

Ballistic Fab.

Hmmm.

Let me see.

I'm looking at a few of their parts right now. Let me be kind here.

How can I say this shit is shit from a fabrication standpoint. Booty fab for boooty fabbers.

Have at it you Advanced Fabricators. What a bunch of shit that belongs on Pirate.

Go ahead, challenge it. Please.



--ron

PS: I wouldn't pay scrap rate for it.

What would you consider to be not shit, if a bracket that you see from ballistic fab is shit, I'd be interested to see non shit stuff. I ordered from them in the past and didn't have an issue with them and their brackets fit fine and held up really well. Could you have made it yourself? Yeah, they're not complicated parts, its just easier to order it already made when you don't have time to make up your own shit. And curious, what is an advance fab bracket? If they do the job, what's the difference?

 

[Matt S.]

What would you consider to be not shit, if a bracket that you see from ballistic fab is shit, I'd be interested to see non shit stuff. I ordered from them in the past and didn't have an issue with them and their brackets fit fine and held up really well. Could you have made it yourself? Yeah, they're not complicated parts, its just easier to order it already made when you don't have time to make up your own shit. And curious, what is an advance fab bracket? If they do the job, what's the difference?

Ok.. I will toss this out there. THESE are advanced fab brackets.

Box of "professional" parts.

These are our production pieces that are for projects we do. Held hand in hand compared to BF, its almost unbelievable. Not to knock BF, Jeff is a stand up guy who has helped me in a pinch recently, but I can make all those of BF parts by hand better.



Matt

 

[Captain Ron]

What would you consider to be not shit, if a bracket that you see from ballistic fab is shit, I'd be interested to see non shit stuff. I ordered from them in the past and didn't have an issue with them and their brackets fit fine and held up really well. Could you have made it yourself? Yeah, they're not complicated parts, its just easier to order it already made when you don't have time to make up your own shit. And curious, what is an advance fab bracket? If they do the job, what's the difference?

How about a show of hands. How many out there really want to endure me posting stuff that's way out of the realm of even most high end suppliers?

I have not done this, for the most part, because most folks wouldn't be able to apply 90% of it, and it seems to me that I'd just be showing off.

So?



--ron

 

[Captain Ron]

..

...

See what happens when you bash on somebodies welds for a few weeks?

They get just a tiny bit better.



--ron

 

[Matt S.]

See what happens when you bash on somebodies welds for a few weeks?

They get just a tiny bit better.



--ron

I posted the good side on purpose... just ignore the other side when you get in monday.