Are these how your Deaver Springs look when they arrived?

[crazyjim]

Aaaaaaand for good measure. Don't take my word for it... how bout brembo, wilwood, stoptech, and the like:

http://www.marcusfitzhugh.com/CLK/DIY/brakecdrill.html



Scotty, I think your race team needs to find it's way into the 21st century

 

[GrimmJeeper]

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_warped_brakedisk.shtml

 

[lyleorszulak807]

Thanks for the heads up jim, I was thinking about buying some new rotors. Now Ill scratch the idea of getting cross drilled rotors and just stick with plane janes and get some ebc green stuff pads.

 

[FordGuy]

Good thread for entertainment! A lot of people don't care what there stuff looks like, and a lot do. For those who think the power coating does not last, look again. A whole season on our Race truck and our coils still look new with few chips. My XJ full traction springs still look like they came out of the box 4 years and 20K of offroad. I have powder coat my entire suspension incl the complete axles and for me it is so nice to wash the XJ and have no rust after 4 years. Jim I here you on the sandblasting of the coils, but many coils springs are blasted from the manufacture to peen the metal for better rate, so who knows , but would a pound or two of spring rate really matter? maybe.

 

[crazyjim]

Good thread for entertainment! A lot of people don't care what there stuff looks like, and a lot do. For those who think the power coating does not last, look again. A whole season on our Race truck and our coils still look new with few chips. My XJ full traction springs still look like they came out of the box 4 years and 20K of offroad. I have powder coat my entire suspension incl the complete axles and for me it is so nice to wash the XJ and have no rust after 4 years. Jim I here you on the sandblasting of the coils, but many coils springs are blasted from the manufacture to peen the metal for better rate, so who knows , but would a pound or two of spring rate really matter? maybe.

Oh don't get me wrong Rich, I'm all about looking good, as are you (apparent when you look at your Jeep). I would also LOVE to see a better paintjob or powdercoat on Deavers, I'm a big fan of powdercoating, and it DOES last. Hell I powdercoated that leduc housing I was going to run, people called me crazy.

I'm just quoting what I've been told as far as doing so to springs from someone who works for Eibach. Again, you're right, it's only a few lbs, but a change is a change. I don't think anybody on here would ever notice the difference, but who knows. I'm just throwing my pennies around.

 

[ktm racer 419]

Good thread for entertainment! A lot of people don't care what there stuff looks like, and a lot do. For those who think the power coating does not last, look again. A whole season on our Race truck and our coils still look new with few chips. My XJ full traction springs still look like they came out of the box 4 years and 20K of offroad. I have powder coat my entire suspension incl the complete axles and for me it is so nice to wash the XJ and have no rust after 4 years. Jim I here you on the sandblasting of the coils, but many coils springs are blasted from the manufacture to peen the metal for better rate, so who knows , but would a pound or two of spring rate really matter? maybe.

come to new england and say that. as soon as something gets chipped, the water,salt,sand gets under it and it will flake and rust away.

my jeep looks like shit

 

[vetteboy]

Anyone know where I can get blue spray paint to touch up my Blue Coil springs? There's a little spot on the upper springs on my rear coilovers that gets rubbed bare by the tires at full flex, and I want to paint them so they look nice until the rear axle articulates again.

On second thought, the tire rubbing does do an OK job on its own of keeping the rust away...

 

[kastein]

Anyone know where I can get blue spray paint to touch up my Blue Coil springs? There's a little spot on the upper springs on my rear coilovers that gets rubbed bare by the tires at full flex, and I want to paint them so they look nice until the rear axle articulates again.

On second thought, the tire rubbing does do an OK job on its own of keeping the rust away...

yeah, my tires keep a few spots nice and clean... and the rest of the spots are being kept clean by my oil and tranny fluid leaks.

 

[DieselSJ]

I'm not concerned with the looks. I'm concerned that a company that sells springs, that are generally used by racers, come in a less than impressive condition. How hard is it to actually let the pain dry?

How hard is it for you to stop crying?

 

[DieselSJ]

I don't think that's the case. Springs heat up to well over 200 deg on any Off-road Race vehicle. All the Bilstein, King, HyperTech, Eibach etc. are all powdercoated. Powder Coating Adds $14.00 to the price of the springs. Well worth it.

We have NEVER had a spring get anywhere close to 200 degrees. Not on our Jeepspeed, our Class 8, our Class 6 Cherokee, or our 7 Ranger. Never.

 

[loki_racer]

How hard is it for you to stop crying?

How hard is it for you to add something useful to a conversation?

 

[FordGuy]

We have NEVER had a spring get anywhere close to 200 degrees. Not on our Jeepspeed, our Class 8, our Class 6 Cherokee, or our 7 Ranger. Never.

What is the hottest your shocks get? 225+ .Coil springs on a shock work just like valve springs which can easley see 300deg. Why do you think when you start to lose a shock from heat the coil goes away. I was very surprised the first time I looked at the laser temp gun that Bilstein used to check temp. We never checked coil spring temp until schooled by Bilstein. Run that 6000lb class 8 in a rough section for 20 min then go rap your hand around that coil for a few seconds, post up the pics of you hand, then you tell me how hot you think it was

 

[DieselSJ]

What is the hottest your shocks get? 225+ .Coil springs on a shock work just like valve springs which can easley see 300deg. Why do you think when you start to lose a shock from heat the coil goes away. I was very surprised the first time I looked at the laser temp gun that Bilstein used to check temp. We never checked coil spring temp until schooled by Bilstein. Run that 6000lb class 8 in a rough section for 20 min then go rap your hand around that coil for a few seconds, post up the pics of you hand, then you tell me how hot you think it was

I've had the temp gun on our shocks and springs. I saw the shocks on our 8 over 300. In working with Bilstein we have our JS shock temps under control now. I'm not saying that springs don't get hot, but not 200 degrees.

 

[MoparManiac]

Good thread for entertainment! A lot of people don't care what there stuff looks like, and a lot do. For those who think the power coating does not last, look again. A whole season on our Race truck and our coils still look new with few chips. My XJ full traction springs still look like they came out of the box 4 years and 20K of offroad. I have powder coat my entire suspension incl the complete axles and for me it is so nice to wash the XJ and have no rust after 4 years. Jim I here you on the sandblasting of the coils, but many coils springs are blasted from the manufacture to peen the metal for better rate, so who knows , but would a pound or two of spring rate really matter? maybe.

come to new england and say that. as soon as something gets chipped, the water,salt,sand gets under it and it will flake and rust away.

my jeep looks like shit

^This.

pwned.

Powdercoating on my JKS steering didn't last more than 3 months.

 

[vetteboy]

I've heard that Deaver coil springs get up to 451 degrees F, and just burn the cardboard off.

 

[kastein]

I stopped caring and started wheeling the rig more and looking at its underside less.

I have way more fun with it now.

 

[FordGuy]

I've heard that Deaver coil springs get up to 451 degrees F, and just burn the cardboard off.

LOL....I do wonder wht so many people have problems with there powdercoating. Maybe there is just a huge diff in quality and product being used. Heck the guy who does my powdercoating does Marine parts all the time with no issues???

 

[kastein]

mostly because we have salt AND rocks here.

Once you break the seal on something powder coated, there really isn't much in the way of it rusting. The rust starts small right in the opened spot, but since rust is larger than the metal it came from, it bubbles the powdercoat up and that leaves more room for more rust. Rot, lather, repeat...

The only way to keep rust off of steel up here is to cover it with an oxygen/water/salt impenetrable substance and keep it that way - whether it's oil/grease, paint, powdercoat, whatever, it doesn't matter, it just has to stay on there at all times. If something gets scratched and you don't want it rusting, you better re-coat it.

 

[JeepAddict85]

a leaking power steering line does wonders for rust control...

 

[iwannadie]

Just to jump in late, I say run them. It looks like they painted them and didn't let them dry so you would get them sooner. It likely came down to shipping them late or taking the chance of the paint getting messed up.

However, It sucks getting a part that looks ugly like that even if it is meant to be abused and will be ugly the first trip out. You expect things to look good when you fork over money, they don't show pictures on their site of beat up springs to get you to buy them.