AMC or Dana rearend?

[bajacalal]

Exactly. How long can it take for a simple real estate transfer of title to occur. C'mon guys the takeover of a large corporation doesn't just happen overnight they probably agreed to purchase a cerain day but it takes a while for major changes to happen, maybe by spring of 88. I don't know why so many people think 91, yes Chrysler diddn't make any big changes (to the ECU for example) until then, probably due to the expense and time needed to rengineer things, the amount of inventory on hand and the contracts already established with AMC suppliers.

 

[aardvark4x4]

Cool. that clears that little mystery up then.
Wonder why they bother to distinguish between the two different cover designs in the catalog if all the parts interchange though.

 

[langer1]

Back to the AMC 20, drive train shows this for ring gears AMC 20 Ring is 8.857 and the Dana 35 35-c is 7.562.
So back to square one, how can the be the same.

 

[aardvark4x4]

I'm not saying it's an AMC 20. My understanding from looking at all the replies is that it looks like the 35 was originally manufactured for AMC by DANA and later became a generic product marketed elsewhere by Dana. Hence the AMC/Dana 35 in early XJ parts catalogs.

 

[langer1]

I'm not saying it's an AMC 20. My understanding from looking at all the replies is that it looks like the 35 was originally manufactured for AMC by DANA and later became a generic product marketed elsewhere by Dana. Hence the AMC/Dana 35 in early XJ parts catalogs.

I would aggree with that.

 

[jpnjim]

I'm not saying it's an AMC 20. My understanding from looking at all the replies is that it looks like the 35 was originally manufactured for AMC by DANA and later became a generic product marketed elsewhere by Dana. Hence the AMC/Dana 35 in early XJ parts catalogs.

Exactly.

That's why the Dana 35 differes from other Dana axles of the same time period: crush spacer for pinion preload, carrier shims outside of the carrier bearings, odd size pinion (bigger than a D44), etc.

BTW, Dana also makes the Model 20 (still used in H1's).
I don't know if they still officially refer to it as an AMC 20 anymore.

 

[langer1]

Exactly.

That's why the Dana 35 differes from other Dana axles of the same time period: crush spacer for pinion preload, carrier shims outside of the carrier bearings, odd size pinion (bigger than a D44), etc.

BTW, Dana also makes the Model 20 (still used in H1's).
I don't know if they still officially refer to it as an AMC 20 anymore.

The H1 has a transaxle, not a solid axle don't it.

 

[jpnjim]

The H1 has a transaxle, not a solid axle don't it.

Not a transaxle (transmission+axle, like front wheel drive), but IFS/IRS, with center chunks.
And those center chunks are AMC Model 20's (without the round helmet-covers).

I really don't know how many parts still interchange between a 'true' solid axle M20, and the H1 version, but it's still considered the same center section.

 

[langer1]

Not a transaxle (transmission+axle, like front wheel drive), but IFS/IRS, with center chunks.
And those center chunks are AMC Model 20's (without the round helmet-covers).

I really don't know how many parts still interchange between a 'true' solid axle M20, and the H1 version, but it's still considered the same center section.

Ok that sounds right. Of course American General is the other half or American Motors that was bought by GM.
Does the H3 remind you of anything?

 

[jpnjim]

Engines aside, H3's are OK with me.

They all look sorta like Jeeps (to me).
You can tell Jeep designers built the H1, since it's more like an enormous 4 door CJ with IFS/IRS, than anything else.

AM General:

Studebaker built tons of military trucks, and had a South Bend Indiana factory.

They went belly up, and sold the factory to Kaiser, and the military contracts went with it.

AMC bought Kaiser in 1970, and split this HD truck/military vehicle/commercial/mail truck portion of Jeep into a seperate division.

They were trying for a truckish-GMC style name/reputation, so they came up with AM General.

I always thought it was sold off in the late 70's/early 80's to generate income, but it may have been due to Renault's (foreign) involvement, and the military contracts AM General had.

I don't think GM outright owns AM General.
I do believe they pretty much have complete marketing & development rights over the civilian vehicles though.

I would be interested to hear the full story of GM's involvement in AM General if anyone knows it.

 

[langer1]

http://www.amgeneral.com/corporate_history.php/amSid/b31020ecfe7124a157ad2434f8ff7829