Am I going to end up like my dad?

87manche said:
I'm the logical one. I need numbers to make decisions.

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87manche said:
I'm the logical one. I need numbers to make decisions.

I too would like numbers to make decisions. It would help alot. However, where we are different is the fact that you know how to utilize the numbers and I don't.
IOW, I suck at math.:sure:
 
ECKSJAY said:
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OH, only 2 AP left! Quick! Cast Repel the Undead...AAGGHH!!
 
scoobyxj said:
That all depends on how far your going. I know if I try to stay close to 70mph on a trip to home vs 55mph I gain around 25/30 minutes on a 120mi trip. As far as the fuel is conserned. I seem to stay around 18mpg on the highway regardless if I drive 55/60 on 65/70. I think it's just how its geared being I'm in the moters sweet spot at 65/70, and it has a tendicy to lugg more at 55/60.


Thats something Dad has noticed over the years, he even feels that as long as traffic is running the same speeds and the drivers and their vehicles are capable of traveling safely at a higher speed it can be safer than, say running 70 mph vs 55mph because you cover more ground in less time and should pretty much be less tired at the end of a trip thats the same distance.
 
XJ Dreamin' said:
The funny thing about that conversation with my dad is, some of my fondest memories is riding in the back seat of some old '60s Dodge listening to the tires squeal around every corner. For several years he had a '60 TR3 that regularly did 100 mph. He taught me how to corner at high speed, how to slap shift, how to double clutch. He was a terror to ignoramuses everywhere and never had an accident. He was my idol.

I know what you mean. I had the best time in the back of my dad's GTO Judge just riding around to parts places with him revving up on everyone at redlights (this was when he was about 28 or so) and breaking loose the tires every chance he got. But now he still hasn't slowed down a bit.
The other day we were in my mom's VW Jetta (TDI) (40+ mpg baby yea!) And my brother and his friends tried to lose us in a 92 Camaro. My old man was pullin the E-brake around corners and stayin right on my bros tail. It felt just the same as it did back then. Needless to say my brother was scared sh!tless when my dad came outta nowhere and cut him off. LOL Good times.
 
GoliathJeeper said:
I know what you mean. I had the best time in the back of my dad's GTO Judge just riding around to parts places with him revving up on everyone at redlights (this was when he was about 28 or so) and breaking loose the tires every chance he got. But now he still hasn't slowed down a bit.
The other day we were in my mom's VW Jetta (TDI) (40+ mpg baby yea!) And my brother and his friends tried to lose us in a 92 Camaro. My old man was pullin the E-brake around corners and stayin right on my bros tail. It felt just the same as it did back then. Needless to say my brother was scared sh!tless when my dad came outta nowhere and cut him off. LOL Good times.

Good times, for sure. Family vacations were always a blast. Dad hated civil engineers with a blinding passion. When he got in a rage over confussing signs and idiotic ramp placements, you never new what might happen. In traffic, I've known him to reach out his window and try to stratch the paint off of a car that was trying to squeeze him out. No worries about torque in those days. Open highway meant, "Put 'er down and let 'er run!"

Times they are a-changin'.
 
bjoehandley said:
Thats something Dad has noticed over the years, he even feels that as long as traffic is running the same speeds and the drivers and their vehicles are capable of traveling safely at a higher speed it can be safer than, say running 70 mph vs 55mph because you cover more ground in less time and should pretty much be less tired at the end of a trip thats the same distance.

No, dad was a firm believer in the 55 mph speed limit. In fact, when gas went up in the '70's he figured, whatever the savings going from 70 to 55, you could add 20% by going on down to 45. That didn't last very long once we got used to the higher prices. Definately less wear-and-tear at 55. We didn't have to overhaul engines near as often at 55 as we did at 70.

Still, my point for this thread is not speed limit, or trip efficiency factors, but rather - Get The Fawkin' Lead Out If You're Gonna Stick Your Nose Out In Front Of Me! That's what I'm talkin' about.
 
i would say take your own advice and cut him a break. as far as burning old people( those older than 14) i agree we would smell too bad , so we should burn the young ones, hell we can make more, he he........
 
flexjay87 said:
i would say take your own advice and cut him a break. as far as burning old people( those older than 14) i agree we would smell too bad , so we should burn the young ones, hell we can make more, he he........

Ok, I'll give Dad the benefit of the doubt, but only so far. Although he admitted that he is light on the throttle lately, I do not know that he is one to pull out in front of traffic. He'd be more likely to wait. In fact, my entire body of training from him was founded on the principle that you don't trust nobody out there. It goes completely against his instruction to put yourself in front of traffic and trust them to not hit you.

What is infuriating, down here in SE Texas, is that there is this chronic indigenous impatience that paradoxically confounds itself at every turn. They can't wait for me to pass, but they won't open the throttle. That's not to say they drive slow. Once they do get up to speed they will quite often drive like a BOOH! Then, if you should happen to be driving at a lesser speed, they want you to pull over to the right so they can go by, in your lane, in a no-passing zone. And yet, if you were to turn on your left turn signal, they would sling-shot by on the right without a moment's hesitation. I've even seen them use the center lane to pass. That's not even counting the umpteen Brazillion times a day I see the center lane used as an accelleration ramp.

What get's me is, if everybody is so impatient, then get on the throttle when you pull out. I don't mind you pulling out, just open the throttle.
 
XJ Dreamin' said:
That's not even counting the umpteen Brazillion times a day I see the center lane used as an accelleration ramp.
I can't stand that. I can't count how many times I see someone make a left turn out of a parking lot, and stopping in the 'left-turn only' center lane while they wait for a space to open up in traffic. Is it so hard to either wait for a gap to open up in both directions or make a right turn and then a u-turn? The few times that someone stopped in that lane was in the way of me making a left turn, I took great pleasure in honking my horn right behind them.

I tend to drive just like 87manche. I see the speed limit as an actual limit, the maximum speed at which you should drive when conditions are appropriate. So far, my record is somewhere around 16 cars lined up behind me when I'm driving too slow for their likings. (The weird thing is, I'm an 18 year old male who drives like this).
 
Mambeu said:
I can't stand that. I can't count how many times I see someone make a left turn out of a parking lot, and stopping in the 'left-turn only' center lane while they wait for a space to open up in traffic. Is it so hard to either wait for a gap to open up in both directions or make a right turn and then a u-turn? The few times that someone stopped in that lane was in the way of me making a left turn, I took great pleasure in honking my horn right behind them.

I tend to drive just like 87manche. I see the speed limit as an actual limit, the maximum speed at which you should drive when conditions are appropriate. So far, my record is somewhere around 16 cars lined up behind me when I'm driving too slow for their likings. (The weird thing is, I'm an 18 year old male who drives like this).

Pulling out and stopping is bad enough. I've seen them pull out and roll down the center lane while looking over their right shoulder for a gap in traffic. I've seen a city dump truck do that! He was rolling down the center lane with his eyes glued to his right-hand rear mirror. Insane!

But, remember now: This thread is not about me wanting to exceed the speed limit. Nor is my gripe about people driving below the speed limit. Except where posted, there is no minimum. This thread, and my beef, is about not getting on the throttle when you choose to pull out in front of me. If you can't wait, then open the throttle. That's all I'm asking - oh, and the center lane thing - two things: open the throttle, and the center lane thing...oh, and passing on the right - three things: open the throttle, the center lane, and stop passing me on the right at 70mph when I'm at a dead stop waiting to turn...oh, and the pulling over so you can pass thing - four things: open the throttle, the center lane, passing on the right, and the no passing zone is there because of limited sight distance, so why would I put myself on the shoulder at 70mph with limited sight distance when you can by God wait for a passing zone...

...that about does it - for now. I'm sure there's more.
 
Mambeu said:
So far, my record is somewhere around 16 cars lined up behind me when I'm driving too slow for their likings. (The weird thing is, I'm an 18 year old male who drives like this).
Out here in CA, that is illegal. If more than 5 cars are lined-up behind you, whether you are doing the speed limit or not, you are required to pull over and let them pass. Seldome enforced, but it's the law nonetheless.
 
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