FlameRedTJ
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Aetna tidbits
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256offroad
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- Huntsville Alabama
damn tyler!!! i guess its time to swap to tons!
mbogosia
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- Nashville, TN
I was at aetna on Sunday. I looked for Naxja stickers and didn't see any. I did see a lot of Ringhold offroad and southeast stickers though.
FlameRedTJ
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- Lawrenceville, GA
Yea we did see a bunch of people from SE. And we only had one XJ with us. The Box was getting pretty wild with that thing.
mbogosia
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- Nashville, TN
I looked at your pcitures and I remember going by your group. We were a group of atv's. I couldn't believe how many people were out there yesterday.
YJ-GENRAL
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- cleveland, TN
DUDE!!! isnt that the rear end you that you just sleeved and beefed up?? atleast it looks like the sleeves held up well but the center pumpkin broke?
and I didnt even get invited to go! man...not that i could have made it on short notice but still... a man likes to be thought of every once in a while...
and I didnt even get invited to go! man...not that i could have made it on short notice but still... a man likes to be thought of every once in a while...
fj40er
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- Monroe, Ga
Yes, we had a blast. Thanks for letting me come and play. I still do not know how I did not brake something. I do love my Toyota's ! I just hate wating for that Little Square Box to try and get up those little rocks. I totaly DOMINATED, YOU DAN P. jk. 
Your box was very Impressive, can not wait to do it again. But next time I will not be as tall. I will start tommrrow with the body lift extraction. That will not be easy or fun. But its a must. I would love to be able to see what I am doing and not just blue skys.
Your box was very Impressive, can not wait to do it again. But next time I will not be as tall. I will start tommrrow with the body lift extraction. That will not be easy or fun. But its a must. I would love to be able to see what I am doing and not just blue skys.
- Location
- Camden, SC
Wow, I guess sleving shifted the weak point to the pumpkin.
- Location
- Middle Tennessee
I beat on my Scout II with D44's, lockers, and 36" Swampers. I never had an axle housing break. And my Scout was way heavier than a Willy's. I'd say something must have been defective with the housing....unless you were catching some air.
- Location
- Gassaway TN
Wow. That's some serious breakage. NICELY DONE!!!!!!
fj40er
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- Monroe, Ga
I was there and when it did brake he was not beating on it at all. I am thinking that when he put the axle tubes on, the heat of the welds might have weakend the housing. But he does like the nice "air photo shots", but then again so do I. Yesterday was a blast, but I did not get back to Monroe GA, in till 1:00 am. Wow it was a long day.
FlameRedTJ
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- Lawrenceville, GA
Video will be posted before too long.
- Location
- Gassaway TN
shortxjdoug
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- Chattanooga tn
so... i see dan had a broken shaft, a tj with a rear four link ejected a coil in the back, and tyler somehow got a grenade to go off inside a dana 44 
MELKORsXJ
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- Chattanooga, TN
i blew a u-joint in the simplest of places... in 2wd! when i went to install the new joint, i found one of the u-bolt nuts stripped out, and i think that allowed slack, and then allowed the cap to break... didn't actually break the u-joint, cap cracked, and spit the joint out i guess...
Carl had some serious flex going on while dropping off a 2-3ft ledge, and out went the coil... he limped it down to level ground, and backed up on a slope, and was able to set the coil back in place... with no tools! ...skillz
Tyler... not sure on that one. It drives fine, makes no noise... so doug, a grenade did not go off inside ...but if i'm not mistaken, tyler thought he saw a leak near a plug weld after wheeling with you at windrock on your day trip. I think the romping on trail 3 might have started the crack, and playing around on some of the ledges in the peanut butter hole might have added more stress... but when we noticed it leaking and broken, there hadn't been any real hard driving on it... maybe it was the straw that broke the camels back... and some may say the willys is light, but you must remember, tyler has a 22 gallon fuel cell, two red top batteries, two tool bags, a tool box, high lift, speaker box, two ammo boxes, and a cooler... all full of stuff, and sitting behind the seats (B pillar)... so there's just a wee bit of weight back there...
thanks for posting the fun pics Carl... i'll see about posting some up this week.. gotta get the jeep cleaned up first, as Aetna mud stains paint... and i like my purty Dodge Viper silver paint
Carl had some serious flex going on while dropping off a 2-3ft ledge, and out went the coil... he limped it down to level ground, and backed up on a slope, and was able to set the coil back in place... with no tools! ...skillz
Tyler... not sure on that one. It drives fine, makes no noise... so doug, a grenade did not go off inside
...but if i'm not mistaken, tyler thought he saw a leak near a plug weld after wheeling with you at windrock on your day trip. I think the romping on trail 3 might have started the crack, and playing around on some of the ledges in the peanut butter hole might have added more stress... but when we noticed it leaking and broken, there hadn't been any real hard driving on it... maybe it was the straw that broke the camels back... and some may say the willys is light, but you must remember, tyler has a 22 gallon fuel cell, two red top batteries, two tool bags, a tool box, high lift, speaker box, two ammo boxes, and a cooler... all full of stuff, and sitting behind the seats (B pillar)... so there's just a wee bit of weight back there...thanks for posting the fun pics Carl... i'll see about posting some up this week.. gotta get the jeep cleaned up first, as Aetna mud stains paint... and i like my purty Dodge Viper silver paint
Team Willys
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- Chattanooga, TN
I know. Im so pissed/upset/discouraged... I have SOOO much work in that housing that it isn't even funny. The rear axle housing is the one thing that i thought i'd never have to worry about again. Guess I was wrong... Unfortunately I dont have the money, time, or reasourses (well, they are there, but not as availible) to re do it and build another one. So... I went by a machine shop today and talked to the guy about fixing it. Without seeing it he said he wasn't sure, but he did say he could weld that cast no problem. So, next week im gonna pull it out and tear it down and see how bad the crack really is on the inside. If I can press it back together all the way, I'll tack it and then take it to him to get fully welded. Once he is done with it, I'll build a mini truss to go on that side of the housing to keep it from braking again.
I know it probably isn't the best way to do it, a new axle would be best, but I can't bring myself to throw all that work away without at least trying to fix it. I mean, goodness, I literally designed and made everything on that axle; spring perches, spring plates, custom u-bolts, traction bar mounts, narrowed the housing to the proper width and sleeved using 3.75 OD 3/8 wall DOM (equivalent of 5/8" thick axle tubes!). You guys have no idea how much I put into it. Throwing this housing away is like buying a Pro-Rock 60 with no warranty and then throwing it away after 3 trips on it... its hard to make yourself do it. It was crushing to see that crack. However, the Rock Crusher cover held it together, and I made it off the trail and down the road with no problems from it whatsoever. It doesn't whine or anything, so at least the internals are fine.
The only other thing I can see maybe doing is finding a HP dana 44 from the front of a leaf sprung F-250 and narrowing that to the proper length, ditching the inner c's and welding on semi float ends to run my shafts. There are pro's and con's to this though. The pro's are that those axles already have 1/2" wall axle tubes, so the bend factor is low. Also, the High pinion would give me a flat driveshaft angle in the rear which makes for a stronger shaft (since the u joints would have almost no angle to them). The cons are that technically a high pinion gearset is weaker in the rear and isn't adviseable (even though big companies like Dynatrack and Currie do it all the time). Also, I would have to get the new R&P, new spring perches, new torque arm mounts, new shock mounts, new u bolts, and new spring plates. So... I really don't want to do that.
Im way broke... The guy at the machine shop guesstimated about $100 to try and fix it, but if it brakes again im out that money. However, im thinking that if I beef that area up enough, and he welds it good, it may be fine from here on out. ON the other hand, for just a little bit more, I can get a ring and pinion for a HP 44... but I'd still have to buy a housing, a master gear install kit, and get all the mounts made again.
What do you guys think?
By the way... I wanna see the video of me pulling the willy (pun intended; as in front tires off the ground) up 5 Hills.
I know it probably isn't the best way to do it, a new axle would be best, but I can't bring myself to throw all that work away without at least trying to fix it. I mean, goodness, I literally designed and made everything on that axle; spring perches, spring plates, custom u-bolts, traction bar mounts, narrowed the housing to the proper width and sleeved using 3.75 OD 3/8 wall DOM (equivalent of 5/8" thick axle tubes!). You guys have no idea how much I put into it. Throwing this housing away is like buying a Pro-Rock 60 with no warranty and then throwing it away after 3 trips on it... its hard to make yourself do it. It was crushing to see that crack. However, the Rock Crusher cover held it together, and I made it off the trail and down the road with no problems from it whatsoever. It doesn't whine or anything, so at least the internals are fine.
The only other thing I can see maybe doing is finding a HP dana 44 from the front of a leaf sprung F-250 and narrowing that to the proper length, ditching the inner c's and welding on semi float ends to run my shafts. There are pro's and con's to this though. The pro's are that those axles already have 1/2" wall axle tubes, so the bend factor is low. Also, the High pinion would give me a flat driveshaft angle in the rear which makes for a stronger shaft (since the u joints would have almost no angle to them). The cons are that technically a high pinion gearset is weaker in the rear and isn't adviseable (even though big companies like Dynatrack and Currie do it all the time). Also, I would have to get the new R&P, new spring perches, new torque arm mounts, new shock mounts, new u bolts, and new spring plates. So... I really don't want to do that.
Im way broke... The guy at the machine shop guesstimated about $100 to try and fix it, but if it brakes again im out that money. However, im thinking that if I beef that area up enough, and he welds it good, it may be fine from here on out. ON the other hand, for just a little bit more, I can get a ring and pinion for a HP 44... but I'd still have to buy a housing, a master gear install kit, and get all the mounts made again.
What do you guys think?
By the way... I wanna see the video of me pulling the willy (pun intended; as in front tires off the ground) up 5 Hills.
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FlameRedTJ
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- Lawrenceville, GA
I was planning on editing them all together and some cool music but I'm still tired. So this will have to do, I didn't even edit out the boring parts. So sorry for the blair witchiness to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9wOJIaZrRQ
and its not alot of air, but decent amount.
Not a problem on the pics, I was up for atleast an hour last night goin through and deleting the crappy ones and picking out some I thought were pretty good. I miss my D40, sold it to get a D90 but that kinda got sidetracked. So iPhone has been picking up the slack
Here's stevens run.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lWQtYlYVVk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9wOJIaZrRQ
and its not alot of air, but decent amount.
Not a problem on the pics, I was up for atleast an hour last night goin through and deleting the crappy ones and picking out some I thought were pretty good. I miss my D40, sold it to get a D90 but that kinda got sidetracked. So iPhone has been picking up the slack
Here's stevens run.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lWQtYlYVVk
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FlameRedTJ
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- Lawrenceville, GA
Haha, I posted the video probably the same time you did.
Personally I like the HP idea. It'd be almost impossible to bend those tubes. I'll run some numbers if I get bored this week. Yea you'll have to redo some stuff and if you did tear this one down and ran an alignment jig through it and got it welded it should (in theory) be just as good as what you started with. So 6 to 1 half dozen to the other. Could try the cheaper route first and hope it holds up permanently but if not long enough to save to build the other axle just in case.
my $.03
256offroad
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- Huntsville Alabama
so you run a 4link rear and stock short arms on the front?Something doesn't seem quite right. Can't put my finger on it though
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- Chattanooga, TN
That was cool. Thanks a lot man! Can your iPhone weld my 44 back together? Lol.
