advantages to front locker and rear ls

scorpio_vette said:
try a search. but even if you find answeres, you'll find that there are people that like or dislike certain setups. so in the end you'll have to make your own decision and find out whether you like it or not. i believe your question for the front locker is more important so here are to posts i found by typing in "front locker".

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=73739&highlight=front+locker

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=73681&highlight=front+locker
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Your getting the hang of it scorpio......now if we can just get that name RED..
 
Your getting the hang of it scorpio......now if we can just get that name RED
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well whatever i got the hang of, i'm about to loose it. LOL

i never really bothered trying to figure out what the red/black names meant. the color didn't really help me fix my jeep. LOL

what does it mean? (just a wild guess, but red/black member/non-member???)
 
scorpio_vette said:
well whatever i got the hang of, i'm about to loose it. LOL

i never really bothered trying to figure out what the red/black names meant. the color didn't really help me fix my jeep. LOL

what does it mean? (just a wild guess, but red/black member/non-member???)
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Yep you got it. Members help keep this place going so we can continue to offer advise.
 
Yep you got it. Members help keep this place going so we can continue to offer advise.
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as soon as i get some money and get to go wheeling with you guys sometime.

i got 3 jeeps i need to work on, and just spend almost $10,000 on the first one doing what was supposed to be a $2,000 repair. now i'm broke.

i was supposed to go to winterfest, but now i don't have enough money for gas or possible trail damage.
 
if you dirve a lot in the snow don't use a not selectable locker in the front. you can get away with it in the rear but in the front it really is a pain. i had an aussie (same as lock right) and drove thru every snow storm in 2wd because it was such a pain to drive in 4wd. save your money and go selectable in the front.
 
STEELFISH said:
The new ECTED is promising for the front D30, it is an auburn L/S when turned off and a full spool when turned on, no air lines to screw with...I am impressed with what I am hereing thus far.
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read some more about the ECTED it is not a full spool when locked..
 
bj-666 said:
if you dirve a lot in the snow don't use a not selectable locker in the front. you can get away with it in the rear but in the front it really is a pain. i had an aussie (same as lock right) and drove thru every snow storm in 2wd because it was such a pain to drive in 4wd. save your money and go selectable in the front.
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What do you need 4wd for in snow storms? He can put a lunchbox locker in the front with no problems. Its the rear in the snow that you have worry about. The only thing a selectable locker helps for in the front is if you dont have hydro steering, its easier to turn it off and steer on the rocks.
 
0313 said:
What do you need 4wd for in snow storms? He can put a lunchbox locker in the front with no problems. Its the rear in the snow that you have worry about. The only thing a selectable locker helps for in the front is if you dont have hydro steering, its easier to turn it off and steer on the rocks.
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i don't know if your speaking from experience or not, I am, i have run a non selectable in the snow and it has all the same characteristics that you feel on the trail and live with. wider turning radius, feels like it plows, harder to turn. at higher speeds in slick conditions turning becomes a problem. not ideal for someone who uses their rig as a dd. if ya got a trail rig and only drive in snow every once in a while it's fine and ya can live with it just fine. but it is far from ideal.
 
I used to have a lockrite in my front dana 30 and didnt have any problems with it in the snow. Sure it wanted to plow through turns but that was only when on the throttle. Push the clutch in and everything was fine. Putting the locker up front is the same as anything else you do to your Jeep in that handling will change. Is it drivable in the snow with a locker up front...YES, is it the most perfered and user friendly probably not. Take it for what its worth...

AARON
 
bj-666 said:
i don't know if your speaking from experience or not, I am, i have run a non selectable in the snow and it has all the same characteristics that you feel on the trail and live with. wider turning radius, feels like it plows, harder to turn. at higher speeds in slick conditions turning becomes a problem. not ideal for someone who uses their rig as a dd. if ya got a trail rig and only drive in snow every once in a while it's fine and ya can live with it just fine. but it is far from ideal.
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I had a lockrite in my 30 for a while and never had a wider turning radius. It just makes a ratcheting sound when you turn. Once again though, rarely if ever should you put it in 4wd for highway snow conditions. I live in Utah, we get snow here, I have drove in it. Simple solution for turning, if it plows, dont use 4wd. Lockers and snow dont mix, period. A locker in the rear is worse than a locker in the front in the snow anyways. You are more likely to fishtale and lose control with a rear locker. Not to mention if it isnt in 4wd you will hardly, if at all feel the effects of a front locker.
 
Just my 2cents, i live in Canada, the longitudinal to be exact, and i have just locked my rear diff with a no-slip. I have been driving in snow and ice for 6 months out of the year for the past 20 years, 6 FRIGGIN' MONTHS! sorry where was i...oh yeah, lock the rear, do the front LS or just leave it open. Do NOT be afraid of a locked rear in snow. You had to learn to wheel, now learn to wheel with a traction aid. In all honesty, if you CANNOT drive your rig in snow with a locked rear you have no business wheeling; to that end, if you engage 4 wheel drive...that rig of yours is very predictacble. Just play for a while and try to lose control (controlled area of course) and you will wonder why you didn't lock the rear years ago!
 
I run a lock-right front and a spooled rear...it gives me no troubles in the snow/ice/slick roads and after getting used to the handling characteristics, youll actually learn to like them more. In the snow, its well planted, tracks straight and still turns well, despite the front locker. I started with the lock-right just in the front. Most problems people have with large obsticles is getting that front axle up and over....after the front gets up, if your not locked in the rear, usually you can let a little momentum come into play to help get the rest of your rig over. Im a firm believer in locking your front first...especially if you wheel in slick rocks or sandy, gravely hills. If turning radius becomes an issue(which it hasnt for me and i run some TIGHT trails), then just pop it back into 2WD, make your turn, then back to 4.
 
I have a dana 44 rear with a detroit and I love it in the snow. When you drive on streets that are partialy covered in snow (one tire on snow/ice and the other on wet pavement) you never loose traction.

Sure there was a learning curve to driving with the rear locked in the snow, but well worth it.

I will be locking the front soon with an aussie locker and if I find that I don't like it in the snow I will just take it out for the winter and put it back in when warmer weather comes.

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Lunatic728 said:
Sure there was a learning curve to driving with the rear locked in the snow, but well worth it.
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I have a lockrite in the D30 & a no-slip in the 8.25. No problems in snow. I very rarely use 4wd on the road. JIM.
 
ILLXJ said:
I have a lockrite in the D30 & a no-slip in the 8.25. No problems in snow. I very rarely use 4wd on the road. JIM.
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you know Jim - i dont think i have ever seen a post by you that was more than one line...

unless it was making fun of me :D
 
XJ_ranger said:
you know Jim - i dont think i have ever seen a post by you that was more than one line...

unless it was making fun of me :D
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Do a search. You will find a few. JIM.
 
I love this one!

Live in Buffalo. (Yes, we see snow)

For the type of woods/creek/ravine running we do here, give me two identical Jeeps; one locked in the front, only, and the other locked only in the rear.

I'll take the front-locked every time.

For those that say, "the front will plow in a tight turn when you are ON THE GAS HARD hard in a snow storm in very slippery conditions" they are correct. But if you drive like me on slippery roads, realize that you are not cornering a Porsche at 90 MPH on sticky black pavement, you will NOT notice the front locker - it will NOT be engaged when you drive like a normal human being!

I still want a Jeeper with selectable Front and Rear to do the challenge! Same uphill, traction-limited section. Lock only the front and give 'er a whirl. Now try it again, rear locked and give us the results! I can handle it!
 
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