Adapting D44 outers to D30?

[Mr.OverKill]

I'd love to help you machine all that stuff with only a sawzall, angle grinder and hand drill, but my tendonitis is acting up.

no worries, i just got a 6" file and some 80 grit sand paper so it will be a quick fitup this time :laugh3:

 

[TheManch]

make sure to use your harbor frieght flux core to get all those brackets on.

 

[Mr.OverKill]

make sure to use your harbor frieght flux core to get all those brackets on.

better, i got a butane torch and some flux core solder for the brackets and truss!!





in all reality, it sounds like you are planning a decent mod, the draw back of it is the D30 R&P will be your weak link, why not take a rubi D44 and put some chavy D44 outer knuckles on it? just a thought other than the fact it is a LP D44, might work ok.

heck, i dont know, do what you want and please ignore the flame session. just haveing fun. :laugh:

 

[TRNDRVR]

why not take a rubi D44 and put some chavy D44 outer knuckles on it? just a thought other than the fact it is a LP D44, might work ok.

The problem with this idea is that a Rubi 44 is nothing more than a Dana 30 with a 44 center section, and you can't put 44 outers on 30 inners.


I think! :dunno:

 

[CRASH]

The problem with this idea is that a Rubi 44 is nothing more than a Dana 30 with a 44 center section, and you can't put 44 outers on 30 inners.


I think! :dunno:

Precisely why the Warn kit makes so much sense. Use WJ knuckles along with the 5.5" Warn kit and you have a stronger outer setup than a 44.

 

[David Taylor]

anybody know if a dodge half ton 3 bolt unit bearing will work with the wj
knuckle ?

 

[Root Moose]

Precisely why the Warn kit makes so much sense. Use WJ knuckles along with the 5.5" Warn kit and you have a stronger outer setup than a 44.

I really wish that D-C had made the Rubi D44 high pinion. Combined with the WARN and WJ stuff it would be "good enough" for me.

Who am I kidding? I can live with the HP 30 gearset I have now.

 

[Root Moose]

anybody know if a dodge half ton 3 bolt unit bearing will work with the wj
knuckle ?

I dunno if this helps, but here is an image of a WJ unibearing. Note that it has been drilled out to 5 on 5.5" (not for usage!). It might give a sense of scale if you have the Dodge unit in hand?

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5762700&postcount=100

 

[David Taylor]

I dunno if this helps, but here is an image of a WJ unibearing. Note that it has been drilled out to 5 on 5.5" (not for usage!). It might give a sense of scale if you have hte Dodge unit in hand?

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5762700&postcount=100

It's hard to tell in the pic. What would be cool is a unit bearing that works with the chevy 44 knuckle.

 

[Root Moose]

It's hard to tell in the pic. What would be cool is a unit bearing that works with the chevy 44 knuckle.

Well, the XJ uni-bearing lines up with the bolts on the WJ knuckle - at least the WARN kit on WJ knuckles implies that. So, they are the same mount pattern but are known to be a different depth to the wheel interface.

To verify the WJ uni on a Chevy flat top knuckle we could get XJ uni and Chev knuckle together.

I have both lying around under my work bench in the shop. I'll see what they look like together this PM if I think of it. Bug me tomorrow via PM if I forget.

 

[CRASH]

anybody know if a dodge half ton 3 bolt unit bearing will work with the wj
knuckle ?

Dave, have you ever seen a mid 80's Dodge 5 on 4.5 half-ton pickup? They used a unit bearing set up, no selectable hub, and they used standard D-44 innners and flattop knuckles.

 

[David Taylor]

Dave, have you ever seen a mid 80's Dodge 5 on 4.5 half-ton pickup? They used a unit bearing set up, no selectable hub, and they used standard D-44 innners and flattop knuckles.

No, I never looked. If I could have bought a unit bearing to replace the spindle I would keep the 44.

 

[CRASH]

The 80's half ton Dodge stuff would work, just need to adapt it to 5.5".

 

[Paul S]

I don't understand why you'd put 44 outers on a 30, other than to get much better histeer options.

Neither stock 30 nor stock 44 outer junk is going to hold up.

Given aftermarket axles in both, the outer 30 will be stronger than the 44.

+, with the 30 you have the added bonus of simply upgrading to chromo axles & keeping the unit bearings.

Paul

 

[Paul S]

The 80's half ton Dodge stuff would work, just need to adapt it to 5.5".

Are these 33 spline?

P

 

[CRASH]

Are these 33 spline?

P

I *think* they are 27 spline. I haven't played with one in ages. The yards are ful of them, though, as they are undesirable to most rednecks.

 

[Paul S]

I *think* they are 27 spline. I haven't played with one in ages. The yards are ful of them, though, as they are undesirable to most rednecks.

What got me curious is that Spidertrax has 2 options:
A 3 bolt 33 spline Dodge unit bearing, or a 4 bolt 35 spline Ford unit bearing.
While the Dodge unit bearing that I got has the same 4 bolt pattern as the Ford.
Too many options out there...
P

 

[CRASH]

Isn't there a difference between the Dana Dodge unit bearing and the late model AAM Dodge unit bearing?

The mid-80's junk is totally different, the unit bearings look and function totally differently than XJ/late Dodge/Ford stuff.

 

[David Taylor]

What got me curious is that Spidertrax has 2 options:
A 3 bolt 33 spline Dodge unit bearing, or a 4 bolt 35 spline Ford unit bearing.
While the Dodge unit bearing that I got has the same 4 bolt pattern as the Ford.
Too many options out there...
P

The rhino guys must have found some knuckle that works. the dodge 3 bolt must work with a stock jeep knuckle. They where having CTM make 33spline
dodge stubs with 44 size u-joint.

 

[Paul S]

Isn't there a difference between the Dana Dodge unit bearing and the late model AAM Dodge unit bearing?

The mid-80's junk is totally different, the unit bearings look and function totally differently than XJ/late Dodge/Ford stuff.

I have no idea. The only one I've ever seen is the on I bought.
It is only through Spidertrax telling me that they they had a 3 bolt knuckle for the Dodge & a 4 bolt knuckle for the Ford that got me thinking.

P