8.5" XJ Death Wobble, Can't Keep Throwing Money At This

I can't decide on drop brackets or LAs. I get conflicting storys~ Drop brackets ride well, but arent very adjustable without adjustable LCAs and LAs have "Loosness", and since its a daily driver, nearly 100 miles a day. I can't have "loosness". This sucker must steer very well. DRop Brackets or LAs. Someone who has had both would be nice instead of a bias opinion.
 
I have drop brackets and have driven several long arm jeeps.

My jeep at 6.5" with 35s drives down the road like an integra. You could seriously forget there is 2' of empty air beneath you. When I brake really hard my nose dives a bit, which some people blame on drop brackets. I run fixed lower arms and adjustable uppers.
 
I never had drop brackets. I run long arms and dont notice any of what you call looseness. It rides damn near like stock, tracks straight and corners well.

I'm sure either one would be a massive improvement over the short arm setup you are using now.
 
I can imagine an improvment in ride if i was driving a Farm-all tractor with square wheels instead of what i got now... Something must change! With all the money i have spent and the problems i have had i am scared to chop off the LCA mounts for long arms but i see no reason to just go ahead and do tha damn thing. I dont think Drop brackets are what i want. I like the adjustability of the LAs.
 
lowrange2 said:
How much of a pain in the ass is the Rusty's long arm install...?
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You haven't learned your lesson yet about the quality of rusty's engineering?

There is a reason 80% of the people here talk serious trash on rusty's products; and its not just his customer service.
 
Look if you are going to go throught the trouble to do a long arm set up do it right the first time. It will cost way less than buying rusty's stuff and not to mention you will be much happier with your rig.

I run the RK long arm kit on mine. A friend of mine is running T&T. There hasn't been a whole lot of good posted about rusty's equipment.

From here it is time for you to search and see what will suit you best.
 
I'm running the RE longarm kit, and I love it. If you don't want to chop the LCA mounts off, then don't. From the looks of your rig, you don't do any serious wheeling anyway, so you might be able to get away with not cutting them off until you're sure it was the right move for you. But I can tell you in advance, you will love a set of properly installed longarms....

:peace:
 
No in fact I dont do much serious wheeling at all since i can't get there... Mostly mud tho when i do... I want to get back to a local wheeling park where i used to go all the time in my Lifted ranger. But yes i want to get back into decent wheeling. Ill install the arms and make sure its what i want and then chop the brackets off later... So is T&T a good set. They're only another 100 bucks over rustys LAs they just look like a pain in the ass to install.
 
Seems to be you wan't everything to be really easy with minimal work. You can achieve this but you will end up with crap and have to do it all again later down the road, or litteraly on the road.
 
you're asking for difficult installs when your running that high of a lift. if you don't do serious wheeling then why the hell did you go to 8 inches!
 
lancey3 said:
you're asking for difficult installs when your running that high of a lift. if you don't do serious wheeling then why the hell did you go to 8 inches!
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...because he wants to run tires out to here and not trim anything...

Robert
 
For fun! Why else? Spray Paint Sucks! and if it hurts your head to read then why read? I just asked which LA was the best. Im not afraid of working on the lift. Trust me, i've spent an ass load of long nights working on this thing. But why would i possibly want to buy the most diffcult to install kit out there. Chances are if it is difficult to install then the manufacturer didn't take pride in making it and it's gunna be shit in the end anyways! Seems to me a well built kit shouldnt be that damn hard to install. I mean really! If i go installing shit and the holes are 4 inchs from lining up and it takes 3 floor jacks, a 10 foot pry bar, 3 body builders and lots of luck to line up, and then once it's lined up its only because you bent the fuck out of something else, what the point?

and i would appreciate it if you didnt post if all you had where smart ass remarks. I know you think im just some damn poser trying to get my jeep as high as possible just because, but ya know i take pride in my shit just like yall do. I don't intend on cutting corners. Spending this much money on something im never gunna get it back out of seems like somthing that needs to be researched on a little before i buy a thousand dollar long arm kit. I ask one simple question and get 50 different answers! One person is ALL for Rusty's, one person says they suck! One person says drop brackets are the best and one person says LAs are the best! Theres really no point in asking the question when all you get is an ass load of opinions. I have my own opinions and so far it looks like im gunna have to go with them. I've learned an ass load of useful info in these forums but i can't stand when people want to be smart ass! Whats the fuckin point. Grow up a little!
 
lowrange2 said:
and i would appreciate it if you didnt post if all you had where smart ass remarks.
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Wait, but he is paying for the forum you are using and there are no smart remarks:dunno:
 
Well it is a forum and all you are gonna get are opinions, that what people have. I just know while some people swear by rustys, the average rustys lover just hasnt suffered their nasty stupid brake yet.

Now as for your statement of why buy the most difficult kit to install, has it occured to you that perhaps the easiest kit to install simply means they are doing it the cheap easy way? Sure TNT kits even RE LA kits can be a real PITA to install and require drilling/welding/asskicking, but I guarentee they are going to be a hell of a lot stronger and stable than some flimsy peice of powder coated crap that easily bolts on in a couple places.

Every Jeep is a bit different, deppending on little differences in components to the unibody flexing a bit differently. It helps a lot to be able to take that extra effort to put the stuff in the right place for YOUR jeep, not in the "average" position so it works with "most" jeeps, and then works only ok. A truck, particularly something with as much of an investment as you have in it, is not something that has any room for mediocrity. It needs to be safe and reliable whether you are a poser or not, lives deppend on it.
 
MongoXJ said:
Well it is a forum and all you are gonna get are opinions, that what people have. I just know while some people swear by rustys, the average rustys lover just hasnt suffered their nasty stupid brake yet.

Now as for your statement of why buy the most difficult kit to install, has it occured to you that perhaps the easiest kit to install simply means they are doing it the cheap easy way? Sure TNT kits even RE LA kits can be a real PITA to install and require drilling/welding/asskicking, but I guarentee they are going to be a hell of a lot stronger and stable than some flimsy peice of powder coated crap that easily bolts on in a couple places.

Every Jeep is a bit different, deppending on little differences in components to the unibody flexing a bit differently. It helps a lot to be able to take that extra effort to put the stuff in the right place for YOUR jeep, not in the "average" position so it works with "most" jeeps, and then works only ok. A truck, particularly something with as much of an investment as you have in it, is not something that has any room for mediocrity. It needs to be safe and reliable whether you are a poser or not, lives deppend on it.
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very well put :worship:
 
Okay, first off, if you're referring to me, I wasn't being "smart" when I said you didn't do any serious wheeling, it was just an observation I made after looking at the pics of your Jeep. Chrome 15x10's, 33" all terrains and a nosebleed lift to fit them without trimming anything. I'll bet it's got a Dana 35 in the back, lift blocks, and you're still running stock 3.55 gears, too.

Second, when you are considering a longarm kit, it is going to be hard to install, especially the RE kit. Just because all the bolt holes line up the way they are supposed to doesn't make it automatically an "easy" install. There will be a buttload of drilling to do. You are changing the front end's link setup to another design, so it's going to take time, effort, and it's going to cost a lot of money. That's what happens when you modify a vehicle well beyond what the manufacturer ever intended.

If you are considering Rusty's longarm kit, that's fine. Some people have had great success running his products. Some have had catastrophic failures of his parts. The RE x-member hangs down a little lower than others, but it's plenty beefy, and all the components in the kit are top-notch. I have no experience with others like TnT, so I cannot pass judgement on their products.

You came on here and asked our opinions. Well, you got them. Don't you realize that EVERYONE has their own opinions? I like RE. Others like TnT. Some like only custom fabbed stuff. It really sounds as if you thought we'd all just come on here and sing the praises of a single product or company, and make your descision easy. Life doesn't work that way, sonny. You make your own descisions and live with them.

:rattle:
 
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